One third support 'some torture'

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I am in any case extremely against torturing.
Also the torturing of paedos and psychopaths and so is beyond anything acceptable. These people are SICK avant la lettre. You simply do not torture sick people. And if people just are that way you take 'em out of society. So be it.

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Wilse wrote:

Cyberus wrote:
I am wholeheartedly against this, or any form of physical harm of others.

Same here.

Yes indeed. Though I am pro forced treatment in extreme cases.

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nicholas wrote:
Since when does a persons sexual preference make them "ill"? Eh Eyso?

When they get so obsessive about it that they gonna abuse people. That's illness. Now we must have a society where someone who has such feelings just can go to the physician or get psychotherapy without fear, so they can live a normal life. For the sake of everyone.

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I know. But then, homosexuality harms no one.
And I know our views towards pedophilia is a cultural thing. But then, (difference of) culture can be a harmful thing.

(okay, know it's being written badly, though I hope you get my point)

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Cyberus wrote:
I couldn't make an objective decision about such things anymore....

And therefore, you shouldn't.

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Such atrocities cannot be done when someone is sane (though it may look like, insanity can be very well hidden).
And everyone knows prison sentence isn't the appropriate thing in such a case, though (enforced) medical interference is.
But such an enforcement is against human rights nowadays and I can understand why, but it isn't good in the cases mentioned in this thread. (and I hope the discussion here coninues about particularly this).

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mr_a500 wrote:

Such atrocities cannot be done when someone is sane (though it may look like, insanity can be very well hidden).

I don't agree. Some people who could be considered sane do horrible atrocities. There seems to be a percentage of the population that has no empathy. They can't "feel" another beings' pain or suffering. A person with no empathy can easily torture or butcher someone because they don't make the connection with that person's pain.

There's a big difference between people who has no empathy, and people who have an urge to cause pain (or have an unstoppable urge to have intercourse). It can be proven that such a person actually IS ill.

Though I agree that there's a very thin cultural line. How else could the Holocaust happen? (I also believe in culture diseases)

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I get depressed of this thread :-(

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Wilse wrote:
@Eyso:

Me too.

We have too few hug threads lately.
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