This weeks "poor taste" award goes to Yahoo

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"Bad taste"
The pro-life movement has the lovely idea that there should be children crawling like worms over this whole planet, eating everything in it's way, and if there's nothing to eat anymore, they eat their weaker brothers or sisters.

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Well, it seems that there's indeed no way between pride and shame for many.

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T_Bone wrote:
Would you be "proud" to find out you just got AIDS? What about "shame?" I wouldn't feel either, if I hadn't done anything wrong. It's simply unfortunate.

Youre quite right if you take in consideration that it is accepted by the many.

But in South Africa for instance, it is a shame to have AIDS or have an abortion. I can imagine in some places in the US where there is the same situation. I can imagine these persons do not want to live the rest of their lives in shame because their community condemns their situation and says that you should feel ashamed. They're just protesting against this community's ideas in the way mentioned.

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KennyR wrote:
@speel

And if we go to the other extreme and don't make people face up to the responsibility of their actions, we might as well give up contraception as being too hard and inconvient, and set up 5 minute abortion factories where women go in one end once a month and them and piles of dead but suspiciously human-looking meat come out the other.

Maybe you do not know it yet, but the countries that have legalized abortion have the lowest abortion rates. And until 1996, when the Netherlands had for a long time abortion legalized, it had the lowest abortion rates of the entire world. (and it has still one of the lowest abortion rates)
So the image you're describing is in reality plain untrue.

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T_Bone wrote:
Anyways, looking at recent trends in the netherlands, it looks like your abortion rate has been doubling every year for the past 3 years.

I'd like your figures, please.
From what I know, the abortion rate has been risen from 5.2 per 1000 women in 1990 to 8.7 per 1000 women in 2003, on the third place behind Belgium and Germany.

The main cause is immigrants from the Antilles and Suriname (prudishness might be an important factor). The abortion rates between these minorities is FAR higher than the avarage abortion rate of NL, the abortion rate of women from Suriname (here in NL) it is 25.9 per 1000, and the abortion rate of women from the Antilles, it is 30.4 per 1000.
So it seems a frustrated pov towards sex and everything related to it is deadly.

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KennyR wrote:
I see it as bad taste, in this same way I'd see a T-shirt saying "I euthanised my parent!" in bad taste. That might have been necessary too, and sure has hell takes just as much courage, but advertising it is still the absolute height of bad taste.

how about the text "my parent did not have to die in a tormenting way"?