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Re: Amithlon VS WinUAE VS AROS question (OS 3.9 related)
« on: November 08, 2011, 09:37:19 PM »
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How much faster is Amithlon compared to WinUAE / PUAE(Linux) using JIT?
I don't own Amithlon and had no chance to try it somewhere.


IMHO, if you're running 68k software the speed difference is negligible on current hardware.

Is it 1000x faster or only 950x?  Hard for a human to tell.

I can build a faster UAE system than I can Amithlon though, Amithlon has too many hardware limitations.  UAE runs on anything you can buy.

The real advantage comes with mixed 68k/x86 software which is rare and IMHO, not good for the community unless the OS is moving to x86, which it's not.
 

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Re: Amithlon VS WinUAE VS AROS question (OS 3.9 related)
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2011, 11:34:41 PM »
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But system friendly RTGd app like something like 3D rendering app in OS 3.9 but not requiring UAE to execute it is faster on Amithlon no?


No, it's very close to the same, in fact most of the code is shared.  Also, WinUAE especially is pretty finely tuned, has many more years of development and can take advantage of drivers that have been optimized by the company that made the hardware.  The Amithlon graphics drivers are reverse engineered and just a little more than a framebuffer, not much hardware acceleration.

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I am buying the hardware from ebay anyway.

Soundblaster 128 PCI, Realtek 8139 PCI yes?
Graphics card...which is best?

One more question, right now I am transcoding 21 VIC20 videos AVI==>FLV and set task priority to lowest and watching Terra Nova on movie player with priority set to high and XP isn't doing a good job as video playback is jerky!!!! Does OS 3.9 suffer like this or does it have true responsive preemptive multitasking ?? :)


Most of the CPU time will be spent emulating a 68k CPU, so don't expect miracles.

Think of it as a cheap hyper fast Amiga, like a PPC system.  It's never going to be as fast as a native x86 machine, OS and software because it has to spend time pretending to be something else.

Don't get me wrong, I love Amithlon, but you have to like it for what it really is.
 

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Re: Amithlon VS WinUAE VS AROS question (OS 3.9 related)
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2011, 04:05:47 AM »
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I meant from proper loadsharing of CPU resource. My A1000 multi-tasks more appropriately than XP it seems in % of CPU power. The encoding should not have affected AVI playback ever if set to realtime :)


There are many, many things that could cause that.

For example, look at the NewTek TriCaster Studio. It can encode a web stream, record a stream of video, play back two streams of video plus switch 6 live video inputs all at once.  

That runs on Windows XP with pretty moderate hardware, but it's a well oiled machine.

There are any number of factors that could cause the video to skip on your system but I can guarantee you that it's not a Windows design flaw.