Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86

[Heiroglyph]

As stated at AmiWest 2010, they still have no interest in x86.

I suppose selling a handful outdated slow overpriced computers somehow makes them more money than selling good software that runs on fast commodity hardware.

Greed > user experience.

Unbelievable.

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By the same token, why compete against them and have to develop hardware as well?

[Heiroglyph]

From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.

I have a lot more respect for that point of view.

If you are really passionate about it and not just trying to monopolize the market into a corner, that's great.

I just wish Aros had the apparent control of the Amiga market that Hyperion seems to have.  That project fits my views of the future much better.

[Heiroglyph]

Ok, I was on the verge of trolling.

I had the intention of reporting what he said at AmiWest, but it had more of my opinion than it did facts.

Sorry about that.

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If they were secretly planning an x86 port and still allowing x1000 development to proceed, I'd be terrified to work with them in the future.

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I'm not sure how supporting every x86 device is considered a problem when we've been scrounging up PCI Voodoo3's and 5v ATI cards on ebay for years and thought it was just grand.

If we had support for just one or two current pieces of hardware we'd be ecstatic.

[Heiroglyph]

If you really think that, there is nothing I can say that will make you think otherwise. This might be because you didn't think about it.

My reasoning was in trying to come up with any reason the company would stick with PPC.

Pros:
Captive hardware market
No cost of porting

Cons:
Users pay high prices
Users have slower systems
Lower adoption rate

The only pro's I see are due to greed.

If they didn't want a monopoly hardware market, why didn't they port to Mac hardware long ago like Morphos did?

I don't see any benefit to PPC for end users, only downsides.

[Heiroglyph]

The problem of your reasoning is that I'm also an end user (and like me others more) and I see benefit with PowerPC. Don't  force others to see what you want to see.If you like x86 so badly you have AROS, What is your problem?

I've got zero problems with any user doing anything they want.

I do have issues when the people who officially are in control of the future of the platform are making decisions that make no sense from most points of view.

I do use Aros, but I'd like an official AmigaOS with some future.

The Aros devs have to work many times as hard as Hyperion would in order to accomplish the same result without source code.  This is a waste of their talents and a drain on the community we have left.

If I didn't care about the platform, I wouldn't complain so much.

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I've completely given up on A inc.  That's not even greed, that's pure stupidity and lack of any business sense.

I'm pretty sure that Hyperion has the crown jewels, the whole OS and AmigaOS trademarks to do with as they please.  I have no references, but I thought that's what was said at last years AmiWest.

Whether Amiga inc still has the right to use the source code too is anyones guess.  All I've heard is that they have most of the trademarks and the old hardware designs.

Is Amiga inc still really in business and if so, what do they do?

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Actually Hyperion got AmigaOS and the source code in the lawsuit.  It's not a license, Hyperion are the owners.

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No, I didn't, but I should have double-checked myself.

I can't find the decision, but the wording I read all over the net seems like more than a license.

"an exclusive, perpetual, worldwide right to AmigaOS 3.1 in order to use, develop, modify, commercialize, distribute and market AmigaOS 4.x (and subsequent versions of AmigaOS including without limitation AmigaOS 5) in any form, on any medium and for any current or future hardware platform under the exclusive trademark "AmigaOS" (Amiga operating system) and using other associated trademarks (such as the "BoingBall" logo).

Serious question: How does that differ from ownership?  It's a perpetual and exclusive right, which sounds like ownership to me.

[Heiroglyph]

I think the problem is that there is too much choice.

Between 3.x, 4.x, Morphos and Aros, the market and developer base is 1/4 the size that it should be.

The sooner any one of them takes over, the better.