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Re: Maybe...Its OUR Fault!
« on: September 13, 2012, 04:02:46 PM »
I think the first thing to ask is what would you consider as a successful reboot of the Amiga?

1, Amiga, (or Amiga 1000 as it was later called) with it's slam-dunking of EVERY desktop and home computer that money could buy in both hardware and OS? PC was still on DOS..DOS!!! FFS Mac had NO COLOUR AT ALL!! etc. So witness Defender of the Crown and Marble Madness on PC or Mac vs Amiga [1000]

2, Amiga 500/2000 with some quite important advantages in many areas but not technically the best (VGA had been invented) as had some very high end sound cards for PCs. But still versatility and power in Amiga chipset and of course superior OS to Windows 286. Witness 512kb game Shadow of the Beast opening level for example. Also Lotus Challenge 2 requires 25mhz 486 (not invented for another 3 years!) to equal the speed and smoothness of the Amiga 500/1000/2000 version regardless of when the software was developed, it runs on a stock A1000.

3, Amiga 3000 - again getting less technically superior, now relying on things like easy to genlock and native TV signal frequency and aspect ratio (something PCs still found hard)

4, Amiga 4000/040, one of the first 24bit 720p still image (at 2.35:1 widescreen anamorphic picture output) photorealistic computers and one of the first computers able to handle 128mb of RAM. But certainly not cheaper £/mhz sometimes. Terrible audio for a 1991 £2000 computer etc

5, Amiga 1200 - good start with slightly breathed over improvement in graphics (HAM 8 in super hi-res still technologically superior to XGA cards) but with more expensive expansion options over PC (no sound expansion, memory only on complex expensive trapdoor cards, 2.5" very expensive laptop hard drives required etc) but still could sometimes beat a Pentium 100 PC like Super Stardust AGA.

So what is it you want?

In my opinion the X1000 does nothing of even the above, and neither does SAM460 based computers. The OS doesn't do anything you can not do on Linux/OS X/Windows and the hardware again doesn't do anything a cheaper PC or identically priced Mac doesn't and in many cases falls very short compared to Intel i7 and suitable 64bit OS.

And there you have the problem, had the X1000 team had the same sort of cunning ingenious design ideas as the Xbox 360 team then maybe 3,4,5 could have happened again in some sense, they didn't they used a rubbish motherboard design and a decade old G5 CPU that costs more than it's weight in platinum encrusted with diamonds.

As far as I am concerned it has to be number 1, the A1000 all over again. And seeing as this will NEVER happen in our lifetimes until computing goes analogue and bio-chemical new frontiers. So for me the users are not the problem, Commodore was the problem by letting the beautiful A1000s advantage rot away to nothing by the time of the cheap and nasty CD32 console. Any company purchasing the Amiga would not invest 100s of millions to make a Sony Playstation level of graphical/audio sophistication desktop computer for £999 again.

IF ANYTHING THE USERS SOLD AMIGA TO OTHER PEOPLE BETTER THAN ANY OTHER GROUP OF USERS IN THE HISTORY OF COMPUTERS AND IN THE FACE OF MASSIVE ENGINEERING AND BUSINESS STRATEGIC DECISIONS MADE OVER A WHOLE DECADE FROM 1985 TO 1994.

In our universe in this timeline that is how it turned out, in another universe where thickos didn't buy 128k Macs or EGA PCs or pathetic disgusting childish rubbish from Nintendo on NES then there might be forums asking why the 486 PC failed ;)

(obviously some people would be happy with options 3-5 and even 2 but it's all about opinion, I would buy something like scenario 2 but not 3-5, and actually scenario 1 is the true second messiah of computing)
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Re: Maybe...Its OUR Fault!
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 04:11:18 PM »
Quote from: Gilloo;707956
Not my fault if I don't buy/use AmigaOS4...


Well said. What difference does it make if I list items for sale on ebay using Windows/OSX/Morph/OS4/Linux.

Without the OS AND computer with bespoke price/performance shattering technology being designed by the same company the Amiga lost it's advantage. OS4 compatible <> Amiga in my book and nor is a smelly 15 year old Mac with Morph Amiga. Amiga died with Escom (and Amiga designed computers died with Commodore and CD32)