Commodore pc

[Digiman]

Their nicest looking PC was the PC-1, which looked exactly like the Commodore 128D computer (a bit like the A1000) and apart from Atari's also slim n sexy PC-1 too (which looked exactly like a Mega ST) ALL other makes of PCs from the 80s and 90s look rubbish and obese to me

[Digiman]

I don't know, even while the C64 was on sale Commodore had a lot of respect in the business world. The PET was so sought after that Jack increased the prices to maximise his profit.

I'm not really sure in America what went wrong, all you lot seemed to buy was a rubbish EGA PC instead of Amiga 1000s and well even worse Mac 128k or horror of horrors that child's toy the NES.

Atari I could understand getting hassle from corporate side for the name and its connotations but Commodore before the A500/2000 still had willing corporate customers.

However whatever you say there was only ever 2 nice looking PCs sold in the world in the 80s really. Most PCs had the styling of a breeze block or just rubbish strange looks (like those crappy Apricot PCs)

[Digiman]

I know.  There's no comparison in my mind as to which was better.  I loved my A1000 - tried to convert as many as possible...  Sorry, what's a breeze block?

Oh those big grey concrete blocks they make garages or offices out of lol it's a UK slang term for them.

Funny thing about the A1000, all they had to do was just call it the Commodore PET1000 and businesses probably would have bought it and they probably would have sold more. Instead of asking "what is an Amiga" it would be something like "So what is different between the old 8 bit and new 16 bit PET?" see job done.

IMO the Atari ST is basically a 16 bit PET (which is why the games are so...erm....how to be kind to the poor custom chip deprived Atari hehe) and had Atari actually sold the more expensive Mega ST's under a new brand name not Atari badges they also would have sold more. Musicians however are artistic people so I doubt many cared about the badge on the case after trying out Cubase/Steinberg etc.

[Digiman]

My grade school only had ibm pc jr's with cga - total ****.

High school had apple ii with the green monochrome screens, I know alot people are apple fans but by that time I had an amiga 500 and thought those were total **** too. My high school computer teacher let me bring the amiga 500 in, and even he was like wow when he said what the machine could do. I said now you know why I've been telling you all years that apples are ****.

Until soundblasters and vga became cheap on pc, I thought those were total **** too. I still thought they were kinda ****ty because of windows until linux improved enough to be usable as an everyday os.

I never liked the idea of commodore pcs, because amiga blew away a 286 or 386 even in my opinion. Its like royles royce suddenly making dodge darts or something to me... Just kinda dumb. Them making pcs was a total failure
and led to them bleeding cash badly, and probably contributed a great deal
to their death.

Thing is by 386 days the underwhelming update from 020 to 030 by Motorola was hurting Commodore as the Amiga chipset is no help when rendering graphic fonts or rendering 3D images etc. But yes same for most of us, in the late 80s I had an Amiga 1000 at home but at college we had a 286 PC with EGA. Used to tell my Computer Science teacher that he was an idiot if he thought his £3000 PC was better than my £400 A1000 I had at home (OK add £200 for Sony SCART monitor/TV) but you know how it is, some people are just set in their ways. Even Apple couldn't break the cycle because if it wasn't for iPod Apple would have filed for bankruptcy last century the way their sales were going.

The PC was double the height, had a horribly industrial feeling keyboard, a mouse from MS (sh1t) and made as much noise as a fan on a V8 engine *bletch* and when I got home I'd switch on my 1000 which beeped in that classy manner and had a slight hum from the PSU fan and removed the excellent keyboard from under the slim elegantly designed case. HTH did it lose to such crap!

[Digiman]

Oh yeah and there were these 8088 4mhz/5mhz babies with SID chips Commodore created in 1983, so make that 3 good looking PCs

OK OK I know it's not a PC as such but I bet you could hack PC-DOS to run on its 5mhz 8088 with a suitable BIOS emulator instead of the CSG ROMs inside it. Still the SK series of Super PETs are some of the most beautiful computers humans ever made. Lovely

[Digiman]

Looks like a 4000 as I suspected, but they also did the same case with the 386 too. Here is the PC-1

http://www.richardlagendijk.nl/foto/cip/computer_pc1_01.jpg

Well I had a 17" Sony laptop in silver a bit like that, was a 1.7ghz Centrino with 128mb ATI X600 graphics (so not a toy laptop like shared memory graphics today) and as an ex laptop dealer I can honestly say they had the nicest screens of any laptop ever, it was like a 17" plasma screen so bright and glossy, great for watching HD stuff on.

I looked on that site but could not see the Commodore Pentium 75mhz PCs that Escom were selling in the shop local to me at the time.