My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[Digiman]

My point being with Apple they changed the OS to Unix and IIRC they emulate the PowerPC for backwards compatibility. AFAICS that situation is not too different. We could use a custom Ubuntu + UAE file type integration to fire up an integrated emulator that shares the same disks.



Why wouldn't it run Amiga apps? You could even throw in a Catweasel device or an Amiga floppy as an optional extra when you buy the hardware? Apple added their propriety UI on top of Darwin, for the most part the inners are raw Unix and the pretty Aqua UI is what the Apple guys define as owning an Apple now. The same could be said for Ubuntu + dedicated propriety Amiga OS window manager (which is probably do-able in around 6 months for a small team of well versed developers). A good window manager can do a lot of magical Amiga only things, it's not necessarily a theme. Having said that I'd want to work on one myself now

You are describing OS4/MOS/AROS not any kind of x86 Linux + UAE that's ever been built/distributed let alone coded by C=USA. And they only use emuation for OCS/ECS/AGA functions so not even close anyway. They can run professional apps for RTG screens WITH NO EMULATION. Hence they're known as next gen Amigas.

[Digiman]

A branded linux computer would be interesting, calling it an Amiga would probably get a few sales from people who have an attachment to the name. Similar to how the AmigaOS4 machines did. They only had a tenuous link to the old days & all they have ended up with is expensive hardware and a much more limited OS (because they are limiting themselves to how commodore might have done it).

OS4 runs PPC Wipeout 2097 in ascalable proportional window on the desktop, Linux + UAE / WIN7 + UAE doesn't. Says it all really that even Win7/Vista/XP can't do that with x86 PC version of Wipeout.

OS4 is fine, hardware sold to run it is not.

[Digiman]

Well, since nobody asked for my opinion, here is MY dream scenario:

Microsoft suddenly has a change of heart and invests all their profit into CUSA and Workbench 5.  CUSA buys out any and all who claim to have dominion over the Amiga/commodore name.  The software side (MS) discards all previous OS efforts to include their server side software to focus on Workbench 5, snatches up MorphOS, AOS4, and sues Aros out of existence a la SCO.  CUSA buys Intel and Nvidia, makes "AmigaBox720", a set-top gaming box with optional keyboard sporting the newest best Nvidia Chip called AAAAAAAAAkikko.  Its 100% backwards compatible with all existing Amiga software natively with the special backwards bridge made out of bullshittium.  It can come in 32 different shapes and color schemes to fit your nostalgic tastes.  This new power block can then buy influence in the EU and America so that they can legally draw and quarter all Apple users.  As we all stand around the bloody hipster chunks we can sing Kumbaiyah and have ice cream.

Except Microsoft is losing out to Apple daily

[Digiman]

You might as well ask people who buy Dell or Sony or HP the same question.

Sometimes it's specs.  Sometimes it's price.  Sometimes it's looks.  Sometimes it's the name.

That's just the way it works sometimes...

There's nothing wrong with that, per se...

Wow..  People take this thing very seriously...    

desiv

Don't be stupid, comparing SONY/HP/DELL PCs is like comparing A4000D/A4000T.

PC x86 motherboard + Windows + WinUAE <> Amiga.
PC x86 motherboard + Linux + UAE <> Amiga.
Sticking Ferrari badge on a Toyota saloon <> new Ferrari car either

Look of the case plastics you wrap around it makes no difference. If you put an Atari 520ST motherboard inside Amiga 500 case and wire up the Amiga keyboard and FDD is it also a new Amiga now? What if I even show that you can still run your Amiga labelled Starglider 2 floppy? :roflmao:

Don't encourage the mentally challenged please!

(Starglider 2= dual format ST/Amiga original game disk....but will sound like an Amstrad game for some reaso )

[Digiman]

Well, the specific processors used in the PS3 may be an exclusive license, but PPC is still manufactured by IBM for all sorts of stuff, so just make an offer for 100.000 boards or whatever, and you can do whatever the heck you want

IBM retain full exclusive rights to Xenon CPU (Xbox 360) and have unlimited rights to sell/modify CELL CPU (PS3 CPU) Xenon is based on 3x CELL PPE units in 6 thread/3 core mish mash.

Price/min quantity/motherboard design is the only issue (quite an issue it is too).