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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« on: February 02, 2011, 06:42:32 PM »
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@Amiga_Nut

A new Amiga with a floppy drive? Come on, skinning Linux isn't going to give you a modern Amiga, but keeping the old internals and OS of a classic isn't either. I know some PCs which physically can't support a floppy drive (well, maybe a USB one), and even if they did, Windows probably wouldn't run the software on them without DOSBox or similar.

I don't know about DPaint, but I know that PPaint 68k works fine on my OS4.1 machine, can load and save IFF images which I can shuttle across the network to my AGA A1200, where they load perfectly into PPaint. And Multiview. Instead of floppy disks I can use an SD card and PCMCIA adaptor which works a treat. Also, my AmiBlitz software which doesn't hit the hardware directly works the very same under OS4.1 (but faster) as it does on my A1200.


I would love an OS which can do what was asked originally and it's not unreasonable. Doesn't matter if UAE is involved or not to me where running the code is concerned but it is reasonable to expect someone asking for my cash for an OS licence to get into partnership and make a cheap FD controller to use a Mac/PC/PPC machine hosting that OS.

If I can't swap between said machine and a real Amiga then I'll stick with PC + WinUAE as that does it all using very powerful x86 components.

What the UAE team need to do is take a leaf out of STeem's book and let me choose virtual CPU mhz so I can have a 400mhz virtual 68060 or just 28mhz 68020.

So new cheap FDD adaptor + virtual CPU speed control in UAEl= 'new Amiga' IMO :)

(STeem = Atari ST emulator)
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2011, 10:47:44 PM »
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It's so funny. The exact same thing could be said word-for-word about Ben Hermans and Hyperion/A-eon.

Personally I think Barry is a bit of a huckster. Unless CUSA comes up with something crazily compelling I don't see myself ever buying a CUSA product. But I have to give the guy credit, he's done a lot better job of promoting CUSA than Hyperion and Co. have done. And yet they're both doing essentially the same thing - Hyperion has an Amiga labeled OS, and CUSA has a Commodore (and soon Amiga) labeled computer. But CUSA has been at it less than year as opposed to Hyperion's ten years.

The thing is, the concept behind CUSA is so simple - how can anyone wonder about what the goal is or what drives Barry's decisions? The goal is: take the easiest route to getting some Commodore machines out there. It doesn't matter if it's little more than a familiar looking case and a label, the name Commodore still has resonance. And after that do the same with Amiga. Clearly the objective is to make money, and as for what drives the decisions it's just the easiest route.

It's a damn no-brainer. It really makes me wonder why Hyperion went through (and still is going through) the effort of making yet another Amiga-like OS and some weird-ass proprietary hardware when all they had to do was slap a label on a box. To me the question should be what is the goal of Hyperion and what drives Ben Hermans decisions, because what Hyperion does has no traction.

I've heard that the CUSA TV ads were shown at the meeting, and will air on all the major networks. Once that happens the name Commodore will really be out there in front of a lot of people, many of them who haven't thought about Commodore or the Amiga in well over a decade. Just musing here but what's going to happen when those people start showing up on sites like this and AWN?


Thing is OS4/MOS are PPC binary compatible [with legal Workbench applications] systems. PPC has terrible price/performance.

CUSA is just supplying fancy case [if you're lucky] + C=/Amiga label + Linux version of VICE/UAE emulators.

I can see why people label OS4/MOS machines Amiga, but don't share that opinion. C= USA is not even close with their Intel PC motherboards and emulators combo.

Are people so desperate for 'new' 'Amiga' hardware asto intelligently attribute their PCs as a new genuine Commodore/Amiga computer?

If I wanted a Commodore PC I would have bought a 486 oneinstead of an A1200 in the 90s (the one that looks like A4000D case).
 

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Re: Ok guys, I will be doing a report on Commodore USA this week
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2011, 10:59:26 PM »
Negativiy about PCs in drag with C= stickers sold as next gen Amigas is fine here :roflmao: