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Offline Digiman

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Re: Amiga - What If It Were Today....
« on: December 23, 2010, 11:15:43 AM »
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It wouldn't and it couldn't. Computers and computing today are hardly anything more than sum_generic_persons tool for getting on the internet, typing an e-mail, looking at porn, editing their photos (because now, any idiot is a DIY "professional" photographer) and *maybe* editing their home videos. At work, they're still content using horrible technology with shoddy overpriced software written to maintain their books and inventory - all completely flawed, non-user friendly and prone to millions of dollars worth of mistakes and inaccuracies. Hardly any company is safe from that typical business-related scenario either despite the fact superior computers, OS's and software have come and gone.

The Mac and its spinoffs are the closest thing we have to anything "exciting" computing wise and frankly - they're going to be holding that reign for quite a while.

Now that the Democruds have gotten their way once again, the Grubment (FCC and its tangled throngs) will dumb the internet down even further - making that aspect of computing even less compelling than it's been, year after year, since the early 2000's. ALL of the mainstream social sites are proving this right now in fact. Look at MySpace and Facebook. Horseshit Twitter-like content is what it's quickly becoming. Pics of peoples pets and kids. Asinine status updates too, as if anyone really cares about most peoples petty lives and lifestyles. "Hey, look what I just bought from Wal-Mart". "The Cowboys are better than 'insert some other stupid team here'". Yep - there's your future of computing ;)  Blech.

It's all over buddy. The mainstream has ruined yet another aspect of electronica. I don't see anything coming out in the near future computing wise that either hasn't already been done, much less worth get excited about. If any platform or truly unique or superior system came about (again), it'd be squashed for all the reasons stated above or not gain enough of the mainstreams acceptance for it to be relevant and profitable for anyone, for very long anyway. We should all know by now that anything "cool" doesn't last for long. Especially in America. It's almost always replaced by the un-friendly or otherwise inferior ware. It's just the way it is unfortunately. In just about every aspect of industry too. I can't think of a single thing that's made better today than yesteryear. This stuff is designed to break so you have to repurchase it AND/OR the genital pubic is too slow to realize that they've been made guinea pigs by these consumer electronics companies or at the very least, have become individual R&D "departments" w/ the privilege of paying for said status.  

Totally free forming holographic displays that were worked on and put to use in 80's arcades (not this glasses wearing "3D" crap) would have or would be nice if perfected, but you can forget about that. Looks like the trend is going toward that multi-screen Nintendo DS technology for 3D instead. At least you don't have to wear silly overpriced glasses for it though.

Damn, that outlook sure is bleak! But it really does reflect what's going on by and large. And naturally, this is just my $.02. Not even worth that much outside of the choir, which frankly, I don't give a damn about. :laughing:


I very much agree with you here, and this is pretty much the reason why I can't get excited about either Wintel or Mac computers....been there, done it. Do I really care about tiny little improvements to OS from massive hikes in computer power from new CPUs/GPUs? Nope less is more and Amiga KS/Wb 1.1/1.2 on A1000 proves just how little progress we have made in the last quarter of a century thanks to people like Apple and Microsoft 'winning'*

The only mild interest I have is the technology inside the PS2/Gamecube at the time and Xbox360/PS3 today because of how they use non PC architecture to achieved greater price/performance on launch day than a £1500 'gaming PC'.

IF, and this is 99% unlikely, Amiga ever came back it would have to do what Microsoft did when designing the Xbox 360 motherboard to a pittance of a price. Ironic that Microsoft are the company that have shown it IS possible even today to use an off the shelf GPU from ATI and combine it with a weird and wonderful CPU and motherboard architecture to slamdunk gaming PC's price/performance on launch day by a factor of 3:1 isn't it? ;) However even consoles have now hit the wall with their photorealistic A/V and yet the future apparently is standing infront of a camera being a dick or using some low-tech motion sensing bollox with childish graphics as per the Wii. The future is here and they can shove it :madashell:

But we will never see this kind of intelligently alternatively designed product labelled as 'Amiga' and that is a fact, technology has nothing to do with it, just that sort of vision and intelligence required is missing from all existing Amiga hardware manufacturers, who are merely producing OS4 compatible motherboards in my book NOT Amigas...or even worse Wintel rubbish from CommodoreUSA ;)

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Re: Amiga - What If It Were Today....
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2010, 11:26:47 AM »
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I think its interesting how MacOSX with its imminent release of Lion adopting the application phenomenon is a sign of where everything is heading and google looking to release ChromeOS i think this will be the war that will be waged.


Google Chrome OS....an OS using a web browser for the basis of its GUI...this is the worst idea I have ever seen (and yes I have seen it and used it thanks)

So still going to be Apple and Microsoft for the foreseeable future then.....

*makes fake nonchalant 'hooray' near silent chear*

As for those praising the iPad...the 'internet pad' well....something costing half a grand and not being able to go on flash based websites of any kind is dumb in the extreme and something Medhi Ali would sign off on....so yeah it is kind of Amiga-ish sure...in the worst possible tradition ;)
 

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Re: Amiga - What If It Were Today....
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2010, 11:33:33 AM »
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Have you looked at http://justiphoneart.com/

Now I'm not saying everyone can produce high quality work on iphones or other smart phones I'm just amazed that these tiny devices let you do all this and more. Plus lets not forget kids are growing up with these device from the age of 3, I'm amazed by how fast some can txt messages, these pepole are growing up with these devices and know how to use them so I think as apps become more clever with the way they work on tiny screens and the users are more use to working with them, your be surprised by what people can do.


I look at it from the point of view of amazing scientific creations. The 1900s had all manner of technological revolutions...the 2000s so far have produced facepuke and younoob and an internet phone that doesn't go on flash based websites as our gadgets for the decade (as awarded by survey results of 1000s of people). Today cars are no different technically spark/bang/smoke tech, space travel is still pathetic 80 years after rocket tech was born, planes still use the same rubbish technology, the genome project has not cured bugger all cancers or anything else. As Save2600 says we talk more but the it is all unproductive talk going on these days and outside the computer industry there is sod all innovation and revolution.

And even CPU speed is going to hit the wall soon with everyone going multicore....which is no substitute for raw gigahertz at all.
 

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Re: Amiga - What If It Were Today....
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2010, 11:39:01 AM »
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Which is why I mentioned the iPad and other tablets. ;)

Also, notebook sales, of which netbooks have been a sizable portion of, are on the decline.


All laptop sales will decline, in the last 10 years laptops have gone from getting closer to a desktop machine in capability and back to the bare minimum to run the OS. And after people realised Netbooks were just a fad and you can't do any real work on them so are not actual replacements for a 12" laptop the sales naturally will tail off.

Go into any shop today and see if you can find a new laptop for sale that can run the 2002 game Battlefield 1942....didn't think so ;) All you get today are Facebook/youtube capable dual core multi gigabyte bollox really, and this sours it for people who believe laptops are ONLY capable of this level of performance.

Which is funny because due to such lame programming by most games coders towards the end of the Amiga's life joe public assumed Amiga 1200s were barely superior to mid 80 Nintendo NES consoles technically and light years behind your average £1000 386SX PC from Amstrad. It would seam everything gets dumbed down to the lowest common denominator they can get away with these days *sigh*