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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 19, 2011, 05:07:24 PM »
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+1

Totally agree, the old Operating systems should have been released for free years ago. But I don't see why attacking Cloanto for providing a legal route to get them makes them a bad company!


They ARE NOT a legal route to get them --for people with REAL hardware--

read -->http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145

They have made themselves and impediment.


You have to have ROMs to have an emulated environment right?  The disk alone do you no good.  Franko has no ROMs up.  He is not providing an alternative to Cloanto's product.  The disks do nothing if you want an emulator.  You still need to pirate the ROM's  If you are going to pirate ROM's it will probably already come in a torrent called "amiga_forever_craxord-2011-torrent-blah blah".

I could definitely see Cloanto being pissed if the ROMs were being offered with the disks.  But, 1, they are not.  2, as has been stated, the ADF disks they are offering are not licensed to use on real Amiga's and some images "differ" from the REAL Commodore disks.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2011, 05:33:47 PM »
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Wow finally someone who knows where I can legally purchase Workbench 3.1 disks, this is good news, please share this with the rest of the community for future reference... :)

PS: I know I can purchase 3.1 ROMS from AmigaKit but not the Workbench 3.1 disks... :(


Here I'll say it before someone else does for the 1000th time.

Just by Amiga Forever from Cloanto and get the ADF's for your real Amiga!

What? They are licensed for emulators only!!?!? --> http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145

Oh, maybe we should have a repository when you can get original "UN-moddified" Workbench disks only (no ROM images so people still have to buy Amiga Forever for emulation purposes)  so people that need disks can find them.  

People that pull their old molded Amiga's out of their attic and try to find a Working floppy image to play around with 15 or 20 years later must think it's bat shit insane that there are a few crazy people holding on to a hundred Kilobytes of dead IP with such a death grip.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2011, 05:52:35 PM »
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Would love to drink a cup of tea with you!! Since we can't, let's continue with this distance education program....

There is no trademark infringement by simply writing "Workbench" in a signature.

But if you offer an unlicensed operating system product and stick the "Workbench" label on it, then yes, that becomes a trademark case too, for more than one reason.


Does that mean Hyperion are going to get sued?  Or do they have a license from Cloanto now?

Or has Cloanto gone after their ISP just like they have gone after Franko's
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2011, 06:35:16 PM »
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Forget it.  The Amiga deserves its fate.  I have never met a bigger group of backstabbing children in my entire life.


+1

Ironic I guess.  I mean, we all know where to get the disks, we all know where to get the roms.

By "ironic" I mean, I think this only works -against- Cloanto.  If we had a legit "Workbench for Classic" repository, it would be place that clearly said it had no roms and could point to Amiga Forever if you want an emulation solution.


How it is now, if some one is only searching for Workbench disks, "Ironically", they are probably going to end up running into an Amiga Forever torrent anyway!  

"SLAPS FOREHEAD"!!!!
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2011, 06:22:02 AM »
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Who really gives a -=Moderated=- about workbench disks? Serisously...talk about outdated, outclassed museum pieces. One would think that the original sources were being distributed. May Aros 68K get ironed out and put all of these issues under. May Aros x86 continue to thrive. And may any two bit copyright holder of whatever burn in the face of open sourced Aros derivatives. What a joke.....And I say this as a workbench floppy disk purchaser from dealers and Amiga Forever purchaser up to version 2011. I say it as a multiple 68K machine operator, a WinUAE operator. What a joke... Back in the day when Commodore was still alive, there was no thought of lawyers. Now the prime directive in post Commodore Amiga-land is all legalese -=Moderated=-. What a joke. Does one see this in the post Commodore 8bit world? Nope. How about the post Atari world? Nope. How about the post MS-DOS world? Nope. Go into Amiga land and one can traverse mountain upon mountain of defecation. What a joke. Amiga is not that great. It isn't. Even all modern attempts at resurrecting it means to eventually be limited by the API, or whatever... What the hell is so great about Amiga anymore? Seriously.... What a joke. Talk about taking any and all fun out of things. Amiga is old school, it will never ever come back beyond the legalistic hobby market it tries living in. It is dead. I operate these blasted machines and I am almost getting sick of it all. It is almost time for a mega ebay auction... What a joke..... This is the most -=Moderated=- operating system from a political standpoint that exists. Lawyers are -=Moderated=-. Is this hard to comprehend? Courts are the same. Is this such a stretch of the imagination? It is almost time to create a new Amiga. Its own code. Its own trademarks or copyrights. A bozo staff of 100 lawyers can work 24/7 fighting all of the legal battles sure to ensue. What a joke.



Well said.
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Re: Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...
« Reply #34 on: May 22, 2011, 05:34:41 PM »
http://www.care2.com/causes/womens-rights/blog/woman-arrested-for-driving-in-saudi-arabia/

This woman was arrested for posting a video on the internet of herself driving!! OMG!

Sounds like some people in here.  

Woman are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, so they are trying to get get together through the Internet to teach each other how to drive. They think they should have a right to know how to drive in cases of emergency, such as having having a heart attack, dieing child, etc.


Cloanto follwers....err I mean men of Saudi Arabia claim this is ridiculous and that the law is clear--- you can already buy AmigaForever and get ADFs.....err I mean, "women both Saudi and foreign, are forbidden to drive in Saudi Arabia;  women must hire a driver for $300 - $400 a month. "
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