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Re: MiniMig with AGA ?
« on: May 18, 2010, 05:11:59 PM »
OMG, yes please do add me to the list, would deff buy an AGA Minimig. Very cool!!!
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Re: MiniMig with AGA ?
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 11:49:42 AM »
Quote from: mikej;559914
If there was a 20-30 Euro extra price for the version with svideo/composite out, how many people would be interested?
Before I get the chips, it would be useful to know if I should make all the boards with svideo option, or say half.
(To get the basic board price down I made the svideo/composite a build option)
Cheers,
Mike

20-30 Euro for svideo? Yes please, the more connectivity the better IMHO.


Please do let us know when we can get our grubby hands on one of these, this could mean that I don't have to continue the old A4000, which at it's age worries me a lot...
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 09:03:10 AM »
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I guess you didn't notice in the MiniMig AGA demo that it was running 50MB of chip ram...


Err WOW, erm how much Ram is this beast coming with? :laughing:
Dans gettin that warm fuzzy feeling
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 02:57:40 PM »
Hi Mike, do you have any further updates or news on the production, if not I will have to uncrate one of my samsung P&P machines and offer to do the assembly for you... :D


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True, but we are on a roll now.
Besides, I have parts for 60 boards in a box under my desk which is too much inventory not to get the boards made in a hurry.

I am still waiting for production :(

(The Chinese firm could do it tomorrow and I have agreed a quote for the next batch, but the parts are already in Europe so it doesn't make sense to send them back to China.)
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2010, 10:43:51 AM »
BGA's can be problematic even for experienced assembliers with professional equipment, as the BGA device is covering the pads and solder area, it can be difficult to observe good quality soldering, and also the device itself, may not settle evenly or (flat) if the thermal profile is not correct, you can experience "outgassing" or "void"; which is where a bubble of gas is formed and is located inside the soldered area, so even if you have tested a BGA and it passes, there may be very weak solder joints which may fail in the near future, also briging (shorts) are also difficult to find without x-xay eqipment. If lead free solder is not cooled down fast enough after reflow it can form large grainy solder joints, again working at test, but very weak and will fail sometime, probably soon.

Repairing these faults will lead you having to re-ball the device if it is not damaged and if can be re-used, and this also has a few quirks within the process. The introduction of lead free soldering also made soldering generally more demanding, as to achieve good solderability you nornally need to take a board and components over 120 degrees C, this can be tough on the components themselves which can have a max temperature of only 150 deg C. the upshot of this is that you have to have tight controls over most processes now-er-days, especially when it is applied to BGA's.

Removing BGA's alone can be a nightmare, especially with fine pitch, and thin and delicate pads..

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QUOTE=billt;571352]I'll never understand why BGA is such a stigma on the bigger chips. OK, you can't really do them yourself at home in your kitchen, so why not have a pro assemble them like Mike does?[/QUOTE]
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2010, 11:21:10 AM »
Hi Mike, very keen to support you in any way that I can, yes please put me down for one of the 1st or 2nd batch runs Sir!
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2010, 02:43:55 PM »
Hi All, just a quick question, Hi Mike, have any of the boards been produced yet, very keen to see one in action for real??
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 01:53:10 PM »
OMG, better start being really really good to the wife, and checkout interflora ...lol

Great work Mike, just sorting a desk out now, not that I am keen or anything!



Quote from: mikej;581573
Should happen this week. The missing connector I have been waiting ages for arrived today.

I am packing the kit of components now.
/Mike
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Re: MiniMig with AGA
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2010, 12:31:17 PM »
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They just mailed me, they got a big order in which took priority - they are basically doing me a bit of favour building such a small number.

Scheduled for tomorrow now apparently.
/Mike


Hi Mike, don't want to ad stress to a stressful situation, erm but any news on the boards?? would be great before xmas, and I could use that as the excuse to get past the Boss (missus) !!
Who can't understand why I collect all these boxes:laughing:
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