A question about XENA/XMOS

[takemehomegrandma]

There are things going on - but nothing definite released yet as far as I know.

Really? Something that doesn't already have an existing and better and cheaper solution through PCIe/PCI/USB?

What may that be, if I may ask?

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[takemehomegrandma]

Paul had published an XMOS based sound card design.

Why? With their extreme price tags, doesn't the X1000/Cyrus have sound capabilities? And if not, doesn't it exist truckloads of sound cards for all kinds of market segments with PCIe/PCI/USB interfaces that's well tried, proven, better and cheaper?

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[takemehomegrandma]

The point is Amigas should not need emulators to run Amiga games ideally. Someone should put an FPGA loaded with Agnus/Denise/Paula inside it and an FDC too and map them into first 2mb

The whole point of the entire "Amiga NG" movement (AROS, MorphOS, OS4, A1, Pegasos, X1000, etc, etc) was to break free from that old HW that became way too limited in the early nineties already, to move on, to take Amiga into modern ages.

If you want OCS/ECS/AGA HW, then you are more into Retro stuff than NG. Look for old Amiga HW on E-bay etc, or get yourself a Minimig or similar. And there is nothing wrong with UAE on a modern computer, it adds a whole new dimension of flexibility and ease of use.

But whatever the "Xena" is meant to do (a question nobody can answer, not even Trevor), it's *not* about Amiga chipset (it can't do it, even if you wanted it). So it's off topic in this thread!

[takemehomegrandma]

I don't believe that modern graphics cards are backward compatible with all the old vga modes either.

Doesn't the emulators use overlay to scale up those old modes?

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[takemehomegrandma]

It's not an Amiga then. Who said there has to be a 'Classic' and 'NG' Amiga division anyway? So why oh why is nobody going to make a 'real Amiga' and once and for all marry up the arbitrary terms 'classic Amiga' and 'NG Amiga' because quite frankly the term 'classic Amiga' stinks as much as the renaming of Star Wars to Episode IV:A New Hope

I probably care a lot less than you about "being an Amiga", "real Amiga", "classic", "NG" and whatever. Names and definitions is not important. But you don't have to look particularly careful to see that there is still a solid Amiga Retro fan group around, entirely focused on *real* Amigas, Minimig, and UAE perhaps, and then there is also a group of people who left all that behind, and instead focus on MorphOS/AROS/OS4 running on newer HW using more modern technology standards. The first group is mostly interested in OCS/ECS/AGA, since this is what the games/apps of the time used. The second group is naturally more interested in having as efficient 2D acceleration, 3D acceleration, Overlay, etc in the driver support for the Radeon graphics cards they are using. There is nothing wrong with this, there is room for both.

BUT why is there no talk of FPGA based core being included on the motherboards to make them 'Amiga'. The cores for various FPGA chips seem to be out there and working just fine on OCS/ECS IIRC

Hell Jeri's C-One computer had FPGA plug-in modules last century to support machine compatibility properly.

But that's purely about Retro, not about 2013.

There is a ball (retro) and there is a cube (NG). What you are saying is that you want the cube, but it should be ball-shaped. That doesn't compute. If you like round things, go for the ball directly! If you somehow remodel the cube into a ball, it will no longer be a cube, and that's what the cube community is interested in. And the ball community already have plenty of options anyway, so...