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Offline takemehomegrandmaTopic starter

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Re: Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 29, 2013, 11:18:54 PM »
Quote from: Hans_;751398
Yes. I just tried typing all of the various Amiga models in to google, using the "A" prefix instead of "Amiga," and only A600 and A1200 brought up any mention of the Amiga. All of the searches returned plenty of computers, phones, tablets, cameras, etc. The first page of A500 not only didn't mention Amiga, but did list the A500 road in Staffordshire and Cheshire, England.


That's simply because in the real world (outside ssolie's imagination), the Amiga hasn't been relevant for at least a decade and a half. And that's also why ssolie's idea that this "A + number" naming scheme would be key for world domination outside "this little microcosm" is *so terribly broken*! Nobody outside knows what to search for, they are clueless about "A5000", and had they known, then they could have searched for anything else as well (like "X2000").

Inside this "microcosm" however (can't we just call it Amiga community instead?), the "A + number" naming convention is well known, all the "hardcore Amiga guys" here knows perfectly well what it stands for and we don't need to use google for telling us that. Ssolie knows very well that hardcore Amiga guys may get upset and/or confused with this infringement on the de-facto naming convention of real/classic Amigas. He has openly acknowledged this (after all, he comes from this background himself so he can probably just "feel it" instinctively), just as he acknowledged that they *shouldn't care about it*, since the hardcore Amiga guys have already made up their mind and they won't buy the product anyway. So their feelings and opinions should be ignored and they should simply run them over and aim outside the "microcosm" by naming the product with something that will generate truckloads of hits for *general* people using google. (Now is a good time to re-read the quote I made at the top of this post! :rolleyes:)

The plan:
  • P!ss off/confuse "hardcore Amiga guys" inside this "microcosm" by deliberately infringing on the general de-facto naming convention for real/classic Amiga computers ("it doesn't matter since they won't be buying it anyway").
  • Aim for world domination outside this microcosm instead by using the "A + number" naming convention that doesn't mean jack sh!t to anyone outside (only inside), hence it will be kind of meaningless on google.


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Honestly, this is way too much fuss over one letter. This thread has been going on for three weeks now which far exceeds the impact that any naming scheme will have.


You are of course just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else is. IMHO though, this could stain the product for its *entire life time*, which is by far longer than three weeks. What could have been something positive and nice here – a new machine announced – is turning into something else, where they try to score cheap, short term parasitic marketing points on the Amiga legacy and glory, when it had been so simple just to give the product its own name by following *their own* naming convention "X + number". Let it stand on it's own merits (and the merits of its predecessor, the "X1000")! It would have made better sense in so many ways!

It's encouraging though to see that *practically everyone* (on every forum where this is being discussed) comes with truckloads of suggestions using *anything else* than "A" (you and ssolie are among the few going against the stream). I'd say that most people feel a bit like I do, that it's simply wrong to infringe on the real/classic Amiga de-facto naming convention. It's less encouraging however to see that the polling is not taking place in the open, but behind closed doors. Then it's easy to claim that whatever decision you make, "there was a clear majority behind it".
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Re: Regarding the naming of new A-eon systems
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2013, 11:31:45 PM »
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Here's a few:
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=724
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/media/download_photos/gvp1230-iibox1.jpg
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/mtec1200
http://www.bigbookofamigahardware.com/bboah/product.aspx?id=6


Thank you for proving my point; those are all accessories for real/classic Amiga's, and "A's" do definitely belong here (although some have other names as well, which is also fine of course). And they are all accessories or peripheral equipment to existing real/classic Amiga computers, not new non-classic computers claiming a brand new "A" model number for itself.

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Acer have an A500 tablet. Or is it Asus? Yes Asus. Their a company in the same world as the Amiga.


Frankly I have no idea what you tried to say there, I think you may be confused. If so, sorry about that. Or maybe you just didn't follow the discussion...?
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