Re: "Volunteers to make OS4 HW entries for Big Book of Amiga HW"

[takemehomegrandma]

Let's keep perspective on this, please. Putting in a section for AmigaOs or Amiga OS or MorphOS or AROS isn't going to make Baby $deity cry

As long you include all flavours I'm fine with it

Agree with Blizz there - going to include one, make sure the rest of the comparable NG systems are covered.

Well, in that thread people were called trolls, people were called narrow minded because they felt it to be wrong to mix common commodity HW with true Amiga HW. The naivety shown about the intentions by some in that thread was hilarious. Well, theoretical discussions like the quotes above aside — what systems will *really* qualify? Not in discussions on amiga.org, but in cold reality, according to the site admin?

bitman:   Current BBoAH considerations is:

Sam: Custom HW, runs AmigaOS natively (OS4)
X1000: Has name "Amiga", Custom HW, runs AmigaOS natively (OS4)
Pegasos: Custom HW, Runs AmigaOS natively (OS4)
AmigaOne 500: Has name "Amiga", Custom HW, runs AmigaOS natively (OS4)
MiniMig: Custom HW, Runs AmigaOS natively (Amiga OS)

Running AmigaOS natively - is without host OS and not under emulation requiring a host OS.

With AmigaOS I mean: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AmigaOS (Amiga OS 1.0-3.9, plus OS4)


blizz1220:    So IMica AresOne Efika Pegasos and other "custom" hardware would be accepted? Or would only AmigaOS 4 hardware be accepted to enter the site ?


bitman:    I did not mention Amiga OS 4 specifically - if a piece of custom hardware runs AmigaOS (any version) natively, I think it would qualify.


blizz1220:    Maybe "custom hardware" should be replaced by "dedicated hardware" as to include Aros and Morphos machines ?


bitman:    I personally don't see any connection between Aros/MorphOS and AmigaOS other than API compatability.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=38055&forum=2&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0

So in the end it was/becomes nothing else than what many of us predicted from the beginning — some kind of stunt in favor of OS4, to make it and its HW a little more "teh true!!1!" compared to the other NG alternatives, to blur the line between "Commodore Amiga" and "NG" a little more, but only regarding OS4, they are very explicit about that! Vox (etc) can now say, with a little more weight behind their words than before, that "I'm teh reel!!1! you are not!!1!", and the Amiga Apartheid has taken one more step in the wrong direction. Goal reached, cased closed. And thread locked.

:rolleyes:

[takemehomegrandma]

not just negativity

Commodity PC motherboards without a single trace of Amiga HW inside of it, albeit with PPC CPU and built in much smaller volumes, are now being added to that list of real Amiga hardware, just as you wanted. And of course *ONLY* those who runs OS4! Which is very "positive" indeed! None of the other NG systems that *also* runs on commodity HW (just like OS4), no, they are *explicitly singled out*, since there isn't "any connection between Aros/MorphOS and AmigaOS". They aren't "teh reel!!1!", it's as simple as that! It's there, in black on white! I just knew that the "MorphOS and AROS isn't related to Amiga" card would be played out, some people never misses an opportunity like this, and this has been a very "positive" experience indeed Vox!

:rolleyes:

[takemehomegrandma]

How about Mac Mini?

Yes indeed! That one is way more "custom HW" than any of the "new entries" on that list, it even has its own custom motherboard form factor instead of the standard ATX/MicroATX/ITX/etc, it's built using a custom design (by Apple) "Intrepid" NorthBridge controller, etc.

Heck, it even boots OS4!

:lol:

[takemehomegrandma]

Yes, this has been "very positive" experience for me.

Never doubted it.

On having no HW connection to old Amiga, I am intersted to hear what people expected - AGA chipset maybe or Zorro bus?

You still don't get it, despite what a gazillion of people has told you already on this site, on AW.net and on moobunny. So I won't bother again. It's not possible to get through to you, you aren't listening.

Well, now that we have been reminded again that MorphOS and AROS has no connection to Amiga OS other than the API and that none of its HW should be on the same list as OS4 hardware for this reason — let's talk about cooperation! Wouldn't it be cool if the MorphOS developers and the AROS developers could join forces with OS4 to create OS5? Wasn't it you who said that?

:lol: