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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review)
« Reply #14 from previous page: March 07, 2004, 09:16:48 PM »
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Hi takemehomegrandma

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I believe I read posts from someone other that does not have these problems too. Perhaps it has to do with the models of IDE devices being used or surch? Mine is a seagate barracuda hard drive and a lite-on DVD player.

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Dont take the below as exactly info, but just what I feel myself about it.

Usually we supply machines with Hitachi harddrives, but you wanted a Seagate, because its more quiet, and it is. And some people like Seagate better because of this, you are not the only one :-).

But I feel also that Seagate-drives more often fails by coldboot (not showing up), then Hitachi, and needs a reset before showing up. This might also change when connected together with other different devices. I have no good solution on it, just that it might vary depending on configuration. So it might change if changing some else device you also have connected.

Nice review by the way.

Have a good time !

Mvh
Gunne


I just wanted to tell you all (and also to "BUMP" up this thread after the update :-P) that I have two different kinds of Seagate Barracuda drives, and both are working absolutely perfect with the Pegasos. No problems! They are the most silent drives I have come across, and they are my favourite because of that reason! If you are building a *silent* computer you should definitely consider these drives IMHO ...

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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review) - UPDATE!
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2004, 09:22:53 PM »
Hmm, I forgot about the "backwards" viewing order in the new Xoops version (I made the update as an edit to the first post, the actual review), but here it is also:

[color=FF0000]UPDATE[/color][/b]
2004-03-07

It turned out that I was right when not doubting Genesi about the "catching up" with things in my last sentences above! :-). In late February Genesi made another production run of the Pegasos (earlier than expected), and those are now (or will soon be) available at dealers. I received my latest Pegasos (actually my fourth in order :-o) from GGS Data last Tuesday. I ordered a G3 this time. In addition to that, MorphOS "1.4.2" was released this other day.

Let's start with the G4 CPU processor card. I wrote in the review that the noise from the fan was not too disturbing, but after using it for a while I changed my mind about this and made some changes. As I said, I myself ordered a G3 this time, but Gunne Steen from GGS Data has posted this image of the new cooling solution on Pegasos G4 cards …



… and reports that the noise level from these compares to a whisper. He also say that it's now possible to switch between the G3 and G4 CPU cards. A big improvement in other words, and certainly good news! :-) The 1GHz G4 speed is certainly welcome at my home, as long as it’s silent. On the G3 cards there is still a completely passive cooler (a nice aluminium colour one).

The firmware in the Pegasos has been updated to v1.1 (from 2004-02-24), and some differences are easily spotted. First, that annoying bug that made it necessary to reset the computer the first thing you did after cold boot to be able to access your IDE devices is now removed :-). In other words, it’s just to power up and play now!

I mentioned in the review that I randomly couldn’t boot MorphOS. For some reason that problem went away when I put both the HDD and the DVD as masters on their own respective IDE channels. On my updated Pegasos motherboard I have no problem in using the DVD and HDD on the same channel. I can also now use a DVD-ROM drive that previously didn’t work. It seems to me that some improvements has been made in peripheral tolerance! :-)

If you type the printenv command you will see some new variables as well. I haven’t researched this a lot, but it seems like it's possible to boot from networks.

A lot has happened on the OS front as well. Several Linux distributions are now available, and so is OpenBSD. A minor update of MorphOS with some (not so "minor" IMHO) bugfixes has also been released. The changes are:

- The IDE lockup bug in MorphOS has been fixed. :-)
- Real Time Clock load and save problems on Pegasos 2 have been fixed.
- The system clock no longer drifts on Pegasos 2.
- The Exec MEMF_REVERSE memory fragmentation bug has been fixed.

Needless to say, these fixes were very much welcome! Now we are waiting for MorphOS1.5 which is supposed to be a major update, including a PPC MorphOS native TCP/IP stack, Altivec, 3D for radeon 7xxx, etc.

To sum things up:

None of the “aber’s” I wrote in my review above remains now. According to my experiences, everything now works fully as expected right from the start, without any need for fiddling and workarounds. The Pegasos now also feels more tolerant to hardware peripherals, but I have not measured this “scientifically” in any way, it’s only my feelings based on my experiences.

The stability is excellent! I would now for the first time dare to claim that the Pegasos II with MorphOS is running more stable than *any* Amiga I have *ever* used. And it flies! :-D

In the review above I insinuated that the Christmas release of Pegasos II might have been a bit pre-mature. But that certainly is not the case anymore. In my opinion, the Pegasos II is definitely ready to hit the streets in the “real world” in this condition. I can whole heartedly recommend this to everyone! :-)
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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review) - UPDATE!
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2004, 10:08:17 PM »
@ angrybrit

That's about what I plan to use my newly aquired Peg2 for too! :-)

I forgot to mention that there still are no driver for the gigabit ethernet in MorphOS (the latest updates has been bugfix updates). I have not yet tried Linux at Pegasos II at all, so I can not answer if it's supported there yet. Perhaps someone else can tell?

(It really *should* be there in Linux; isn't Linux what most OEM manufacturer's choose to support for their products? There should be Linux support from Marvell themselves ...?)
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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review) - UPDATE!
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2004, 02:01:19 PM »
@ angrybrit

I am obviously not the best person to answer Linux questions, but ...

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Also posted on ANN.lu

Does any of the 2 supported Linux distros (Debian and Gentoo) support the more recent Kernel, 2.6?


Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo and Yellow Dog are also supported (have a look at the image installer site) as well as the the Crux Linux PPC distro. Suse can also be installed.

About the kernel, this is from http://linux.pegasosppc.com (the official Linux for Pegasos site):

"The Pegasos uses a PowerPC kernel of the CHRP subarchitecure. As of 2.4.22, a small Pegasos specific patch is still needed, but work is underway for integration in the official kernels. Work on porting the pegasos patches to the 2.6.x kernel series is underway. "

I think the latest versions of the kernels usually appears here (2.4.25-2 is the latest): http://people.debian.org/~luther/.

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Also I would like to know if all Linux x86 console apps/services work on the PowerPC/Pegasus? (Any problem recompiling with endianess issues to know? Keep in mind that a server I need to replace would need uPnP NAT Translation services to the 3 XP clients. I want to replace my flaky D-Link Internet Gateway as well.)

  :-(


I sure hope that all Linux PPC console apps/services available in the distros will work! :-)
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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review)
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2004, 08:10:34 PM »
@ GGS

IMHO, Seagate Barracuda are great, especially if you want silence. And
many of us likes silence, so ... :-)
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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review)
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2004, 08:16:07 PM »
@ smithy

I could write it right here, but unfortunately I have not yet seen any
firmware upgrades for the already released Peg2's (except that old
update that fixes the bug that renders the computer unbootable if you
uses the setenv command).

So my "old" Peg2 still has the old firmware ... :-(

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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review)
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2004, 12:52:54 AM »
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Hi again :-)

> I just wanted to tell you all (and also to "BUMP" up this thread after the update) that I have two different kinds of Seagate Barracuda drives, and both are working absolutely perfect...

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So, do i get you right if it seems you suggest us to supply Pegasos with Seagate harddrives forward :-)


ATTENTION! ACHTUNG!

As I said, my "old" Peg2 was a G4, and my "new" Peg2 is a G3. My "old" Peg2 didn't work well with Seagate, but my "new" Peg2 did. Unfortunately, I wrongly assumed that this was becase the updated firmware, but now I have switched CPU cards (which worked fine :-)) so that the old G4 card is in my new, OF1.1 Peg2, and then I still have the cold-boot problem. It seems like the problem is more Seagate-related than it is OF-related. I have only been using seagate drives for my Pegasos computers, allways, and they have always worked fine with my previous (and latest) Pegasos computers. And they were all G3!

I am sorry about this error in my review and I hope that it hasn't caused anyone any trouble. It seems like the Seagates are a little bit slower in cold-start than other HDD's, but it can't be very much. IMO, this should be fairly easy to fix in a coming OF update, and I hope it *does* gets fixed, because the seagates are so QUIET! :-)

Again, sorry about this ...
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Re: My first impressions of the Pegasos II (review)
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2004, 01:41:14 AM »
@ iamaboringperson

It sure is! :-)

Please look a couple of posts up for the main differences (bugfixes),
or on other websites where news about it were posted last week ...
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