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Offline takemehomegrandma

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Classic Available To Buy
« on: May 20, 2011, 06:11:38 AM »
Quote from: Nearly-Right;638909
Why isn't there an upgrade option for people who bought Classic OS4.0


It isn't?

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seeing as it's only a further development of the Classic OS4.x which was the worst Workbench release ever, in my opinion.


Maybe it should have been a *free* upgrade for existing users then...?

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As yet, I don't see much improvement in OS4.1 that would encourage me to pay the best part of £100 to see a more recent Workbench screen, nicer font system, etc, but not allow me to use the majority of the software/hardware I use under OS3.9.


"Amiga compatibility" has always had a lower priority by the OS4 team, than adding new stuff in a new "un-Amiga" way. Of course this will show. Nobody can possibly be surprised.

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When Microsoft update Windows they usually leave most of the features of the last OS available as a compatability option for people who upgrade, but much of that is lost if you opt for Classic OS4.1, as far as I see it.


This is something new and different (like AROS and MorphOS) made by different people (some Linux Game Porting people) than those who once wrote Amiga OS, and they rebranded Amiga OS to "Classic", and their own OS to "AmigaOS". And that's it! Had you slapped on the "AmigaOS" sticker on MorphOS (*THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T*) you would also have gotten something new and different, but you would have experienced far, far better Amiga compatibility (and better performance, and better features as well). They are using the brand to cover up the product underneath it. I have always been surprised that there actually exists people who buys that, but I guess some people really likes to blindly follow a trade mark instead of actually reading up on all alternatives about what you will really get (what's under the hood, so to say) and make a rational decision based on that info. But who knows, they should be a happy bunch now, because it seems like these people will have a lot of new, interesting Amiga branded products to choose from, including tablets! And even an upcoming, new Amiga from Commodore! :-O

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Hyperion just seem to be on the 'gravy train' at the moment, and once they have enough 'gravy' (money) from the Classic users they may well dump us yet again.


Won't be much money in this. Maybe their telephone bill went overdue...?
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Offline takemehomegrandma

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Classic Available To Buy
« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 09:47:39 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;639049
This comment is nothing more than a comparison between the red and blue camps.


Not really, it was a comparison between "Classic" and "Next Generation" (or "retro/vintage" and "continuation", or "680x0" and "alien architecture"), as a response to the statement:

"When Microsoft update Windows they usually leave most of the features of the last OS available as a compatability option for people who upgrade, but much of that is lost if you opt for Classic OS4.1, as far as I see it."

There are apples and oranges. An apple can evolve over time as it grows (like when Microsoft updates Windows from Vista to 7; the apple changes and evolves, however it still tastes like an apple), but it won't "evolve" into an orange in a natural way. Perhaps some clever scientist could add something to an orange to make it taste somewhat like an apple, but you can't change the fact that it's still an orange and not an apple. Both are still tasty fruits though, that anyone interested in fruits can enjoy, albeit for somewhat different reasons.

Basically we have two things; the Amiga ("classic"), and the "Next Generation" efforts. And *there is a gap between them*! Apples and oranges.

If you are a classic user in 2011, you are into retro/vintage computing where it's important that *all* your old Amiga games and application runs, and runs flawlessly. In this case you'd probably be best off with a fast 060 accelerator fully expanded with memory (it would probably be better than a PPC PowerUP card; not that many important Classic SW titles were made anyway), various gizmo's from Jens Schönfeld, and a customary patched-up Amiga OS 3.x. This way you can fully enjoy your Amiga *exactly* the way you have always done. You should also keep an eye on the Natami project, which will be more relevant to you than any PowerUP card in existence.

If you are a "NG" user in 2011, you are an old Amigan that loves the Amiga way in which the system functions, you like the environment, etc. But you want to use it in a more modern way; you want the power to browse the web and use the Internet in a 2011 way, you want to enjoy 2011 level media files, etc. Sure, SW from Amiga "Classic" is nice to have (it would be kind of empty and pointless without it) and that is why the various "NG" options (MorphOS, AROS and OS4) tries to bridge over the gap in various ways and with various results. But a NG user is prepared to sacrifice *some* level of Amiga compatibility (as little as possible of course) on behalf of the new possibilities with powerful hardware and a new OS with better features. Hardware that is as modern, cheap and powerful as possible is more relevant than any PowerUP card in existence (the PowerUP is way to aged and weak to be used for serious 2011 NG stuff anyway).

"Nearly-Right" above expressed disappointment with the Amiga compatibility of OS4. And this is the whole essence of my post; it's *not* an evolved apple, no, like all other NG systems it is an orange with apple taste added to it. But unlike the other two oranges out there, Hyperion has put a sticker onto their orange, saying "This is an apple" as a way to sell more of it to apple lovers who doesn't bother examining further what's really underneath that sticker. But of course it won't change the fact that it is a NG OS and *not* a Classic OS. Hence Nearly-Right's disappointment; he wanted an evolved apple and wasn't really expecting an orange that *almost* tastes like an apple. I think he was a little fooled by the sticker. And if you are prepared to take the step away from apple land into orange land, you will actually find that the orange that tastes *the most* apple is in fact one that *does not* have a sticker saying "this is an apple" on it. Ironic, huh? ;)

Oh, did I forget to express my opinion that the PowerUP cards are kind of redundant in 2011, both for retro fans and for NG fans...? ;)
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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 Classic Available To Buy
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 09:07:53 PM »
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I would also disagree that "Apple", the company, actually evolved their OS.  They just did a more thorough and complete job of adding the Apple flavor to their Orange when they moved from MacOS9 to MacOSX.


Yes indeed.
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