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Re: Is Natami Vapourware?
« on: May 17, 2011, 05:32:52 AM »
Quote from: runequester;638260
Its vapour until it arrives.


+1

There is nothing tangible you can buy as of yet. There has been many examples of very interesting projects that got this far (or even further) that had better financial backing but yet never made it. From the top of my mind (but I recall *a very long list* here at amiga.org some year ago):

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/pios/pios1mb.jpg

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/boxer3.jpg

http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01915.JPG
http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01922.JPG

The Natami still has some way to go, and from history we have learned that this is where many projects fail (and not where the Natami has been this far). Not that I think they will fail, but the "product" simply isn't a *product* yet, so it's still vapor! :)
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Re: Is Natami Vapourware?
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2011, 09:41:03 AM »
Quote from: kedawa;638294
There are working physical prototypes.  I would say that means that it isn't vaporware.


If they had fully working boards, they would release it, don't you think? But they haven't got everything together yet, it's not ready, it's not here. Vapor is something you can't grab. I couldn't get a fully working Natami today even if I tried. It's not even finished enough to be released, and only time will tell if it will or won't make it all the way. Mind you, I actually think most of these projects reached a stage of working physical prototypes, but they were still shelved before a release. Don't get me wrong, I like the Natami and I hope it makes it. But I'm not holding my breath. I fully consider it vapor until they *really* have something for sale. Only time will tell if it ever will.
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Re: Is Natami Vapourware?
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2011, 10:56:54 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;638323
WOAH WOAH hang on a minute. Maybe Morphos has the luxury of using established hardware like Apple Macs but remember NatAmi are not just making software for established hardware but they are actually making the hardware itself. It's a bit different so maybe you should stop comparing NatAmi to Morphos and start giving encouragement.

Jesus i'm starting to sound like a NatAmi zealot   :eek:


What has MorphOS got to do with anything?

Look, all I'm saying is that the Natami is a *very* ambitious project (with a custom CPU and everything), and that I (and probably many others) have been "let down" by so many other promising developments that has been *half* as "ambitious" as this one is. I'm not saying that Natami will fail, I don't want it to fail, but most projects *do* in fact fail, some at a point even further down the road than Natami is now. I do like to read the progress reports, it sounds promising and all, but so did so many other projects as well. So I'll consider it being real and tangible only when it's out for sale. Until that happens I'll not invest any "emotional capital" into this one.

Anyway, I have made my point regarding this and won't post further. I just wanted to respond to your strange and out of the air "compare Natami with MorphOS" statements. I never did that. Why would I?
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Re: Is Natami Vapourware?
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2011, 10:58:45 AM »
Quote from: jakov;638324
We have no funds to cancel! :-D


:lol:

Well good for you! ;)
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Re: Is Natami Vapourware?
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 07:01:35 PM »
Hmm, well OK, just *one* more post before I shut up in this thread:

Quote from: desiv;638374
I don't think you quite get the meaning of "prototypes."


OK, if having a *not* fully working prototype, and *not* having the thing publicly available means that something isn't to be consider vapor, then I guess we can lift the "vapor" label from this one too:

http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01915.JPG
http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01922.JPG
http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01924.JPG

Heck, the webpages is still there:
http://www.elbox.com/faq_dragon.html
http://www.elbox.com/news_04_12_17.html

"On 27 July 2006 we had presentation of DRAGON 1200 for a Freescale Inc. representative who visited Elbox Computer. The DRAGON 1200-based system on presentation was fitted with the Radeon 9200 AGP graphic card, the Fast Ethernet network card, the Hi-Speed USB and TV tuner cards, all working under AmigaOS 3.9."

:p ;)
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