First Natami MX boards produced

[takemehomegrandma]

Also to all the people who said Vapour ware.... :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

While I applaud this effort and the progress it has reached this far (and thinks the pictures of the PCB are really cool), I'd still humbly want to point out that it still is just as unreleased as, for example, the Pios One, BoXeR and Dragon:

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/pios/pios1mb.jpg

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/boxer3.jpg

http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01915.JPG
http://tdolphin.org/amikrak/amizaduszki2k6/DSC01922.JPG

It still has some way to go, and from history we have learned that this is where many projects fail. Not that I think they will fail, but the "product" still isn't a *product*. So it's still vapor!

[takemehomegrandma]

Well, Commodore USA hasn't shipped anything either but that hasn't stopped you guys from making endless threads with your cheerleading in it?.

Just saying......

"You guys"?!

Hehe, look, the few people responsible for the flooding of Commodore USA threads are a handful of loud Hyperion supporters starting thread after thread about how much they don't want to see Commodore USA threads! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look, someone made some statement like: "in your face, you people who thought this was vapor ware", and I simply responded that it still is! Because it is! And so is "x1000" BTW. And Clone-A. And..., and..., and...

Edit: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29050

Many are the Amiga related HW projects that was shelved after the first PCB's were made, but before real commercialization. *Most* projects in fact, much more than the few examples I showed pictures of above. Maybe it is because when you have your prototype ready, you have to start thinking about the economic reality. Commercial Viability, Risk Assessment, etc. Possibly this is a *much bigger challenge* than doing the engineering stuff, and that's why almost all projects fail in this stage. I'm not saying that the NatAmi will fail. I'm just saying it's way too soon to lift the "vapor" label from it. It has yet to face its biggest challenge...

That doesn't mean I don't like the project (I honestly do), so please quit the grumpy comments...

[takemehomegrandma]

Yes, but there was a major differance in those projects and the NATAMI.
Thomas does this whole project as his personal quest to revive the AMIGA -
The NATAMI project is not done to make any money.

All of the team know that we will not make any money on this.
But money is not our goal.

That's not what I'm saying. I fully understand that money isn't your motivator, but that doesn't take money out of the equation. Making a few prototypes can't be much of a problem, you could probably take some spare cash from your last monthly salary. Volume usually makes the per-unit price lower (which is of great interest to potential customers), but to produce a batch as low as 100 motherboards would require a considerable sum of cash up front, with many months until you have it back, with a substantial risk of not getting it back at all. Maybe you can do like Minimig, either offer a plain empty PCB with a Bill of Materials or hand it over to someone like Acube who might be willing to take the risk for you? They did that for the Minimig, remember? Just a thought.

Anyway, it's good to see the progress you are making, and I'm looking forward to see some videos of the thing running! If prices aren't too steep when it gets here, I'll probably buy one just of curiosity! It's a real cool procejt!

[takemehomegrandma]

Could you lot stop quoting takemehomegrandma so much? He's on my ignore list for a reason, you're not helping! :laughing:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Well some time ago I for a moment was playing with the thought of putting you kolla on that list, but I didn't. Not because your contributions to threads any valuable at all, they are mostly vitriol about this and that and just about anything.

But in a general way of speaking, I would honestly feel crippled knowing that there are discussions going, things said, news spread, etc which I haven't got a clue of, or that I might miss out on big chunks of the discussions that *I am part* of.

So since the concept of ignore lists isn't really working for me, I have decided that kolla is put on my "mental" ignore list instead. I am a grown up, I can usually handle kolla's vitriol, and when I can't I simply scroll past them quickly!