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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« on: June 21, 2010, 06:34:07 PM »
Quote from: B00tDisk;566167
"some pretty cool cpu we don't want to tell you about just yet"

...except you did in the output.

FTW, guys!


LOL!

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Well, this is what happens when "no-techies" tries to do technology!

Ah well, the PA6T was many people's first hand guess since long, including mine.

Didn't think that PA-Semi had had the time to develop it enough to be fit into a consumer product though. Hmm, did Apple continue its development??
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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 07:09:35 PM »
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actually I made an educated assumption based on the information at the time. It seemed pretty aparent to me. I never get carried away! I also never Guess or Gamble.


Yes you do, but you call it "an educated assumption based on the information at the time", which pretty much is the same tag line *any gambler* would use! ;)
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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 08:13:00 PM »
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Divide that value by 2 - only one core gets used

...and is the CPU even available at 2.0GHz in real life, or only theoretical? The "X1000" is announced at 1.8GHz, and IIRC I remember some comments that "now we have successfully tested it at 1.6GHz" (or whatever)...

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(at least initially).

Per design, Amiga can't do what outsiders would call *real* SMP, not even "later".

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The G4 1500 MHz is slower, but optimized software probably fills that gap.

As already shown in the MorphOS vs. OS4 speed comparison (not that the G4 1500MHz will be faster, but that optimized software wins *on the same HW*, and thus will reach up beyond the "unoptimized" software).

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I am pretty curious of a real world usage comparision of OS4 on the X1000 vs. a Mac mini 1500 running MorphOS. Unfortunately we will have to wait until winter for that comparison (and who knows maybe we can compare it against a G4 1667 MHz by then)...

Bang for the Buck!
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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 08:28:20 PM »
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@tmhg

2.0GHz is frequently quoted in old PASemi notes. I suspect the 1.6/1.8 GHz speeds in the X1000 may be something more to do with the fact it is passively cooled.


Well OK (did never pay that much attention), but let's see *what gets delivered* in the end. The thing isn't even remotely here yet!

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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 08:39:02 PM »
HyperionMP:

"It is unwise to spread this type of unconfirmed rumours.

Whatever people believe they have seen or not seen, I certainly do not want any disappointed users blaming A-EON and/or Hyperion Entertainment for speculation by third parties.

It should be pointed out that measures were taken to throw up "funny answers" when people tried to find out the identity of the CPU."


http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=31896&forum=33#566619

Ah well, we'll see who will be eating the socks in the end...

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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2010, 08:40:01 PM »
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What interests me, is how can it be a new off the fab line....PA6T.


Well, is it?
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Re: X1000 CPU is PWRficient PA6T
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 08:12:51 AM »
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I wonder if/when they will come up with a demonstration of the Xena/xcore chipset's capabilities.  Otherwise it's going to take a year or two at least before some interesting apps come out that use the chipset after the sale of the X1000 begins (by which time judgement of X1000's success will have already been judged).

It's all very good to say "look! amazing chipset! part of the reason why this is so expensive", but if they want to attract some serious interest, there has to be a demo as well.  No, I'm not talking about a 21st century juggler :)  But in terms of potential customers saying "wow", it needs to be something that has a similar relative impact.


The XMOS chip in the "X1000" will probably be as much fun as the FPGA on the Sam.
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