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Offline takemehomegrandma

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Re: New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.
« on: November 30, 2009, 04:27:28 PM »
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Yes, it does. The man owns the site, and with it, access to personal information. I'd like to know who has access to that, and because I don't, I kindly request to delete my account and all it's accompanied personal data. Please do so before the end of the week. I may re-register if I like the new owner.

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IMHO it's not only about access to personal information.

In a community forum like amiga.org, you get to grow lots and lots of relationships with various people. Some you learn to trust, some you learn to distrust. Some you get to like, some you don't like as much. And you have a chance to act accordingly, i.e. all depending on whoever your counterpart is. Like mingling with guests at a party. Some people you don't like and you avoid them, but some people you really like and drag them away to the bar and have a long and pleasant conversation. But *the host* of the entire party is the *site owner*. In a way that is the most important relationship of them all in a community forum. Because if you dislike certain people you know is going to be at a party, you might still want to go there if you also know that you will have some good friends coming there as well. But if you don't like *the party host*, if you dislike his/her/their values, opinions, i.e. what they stand for, chances are that you choose to stay at home or go to someone else's party instead.

I think it's more than fair to let the guests know who's hosting the party. I want to know who I am building a relationship with. I want to know what he/she/they stand for. For example, I would never go to a party hosted by some Neo Nazi, Fascist or some ultra religious zealot. I wouldn't even want to be connected to that stuff in any way. I don't want to invest time, heart and thought into a party that's hosted by someone I might not even like.

Not disclosing this info is more than strange. It's stupid. And pathetic. If you aren't prepared to stand up as the site owner, you shouldn't have taken over the site to begin with.
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Re: New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 05:44:12 PM »
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This site isn't a party and having any contact with the site owner is very unlikely unless the site owner wants to participate in the forums themselves, which if they are a very private person, is again very unlikely.


I have been registered here for many years, I have made many posts, and in all those years and in all those posts, I don't think more than one or a few tops was directed at Wayne. Chatting with the site owner is obviously *not* what I was talking about above.

Wayne assured us that the new owners aren't Bill McEwen, Bill Buck, or Doomy. Why do you think he *even felt the need* to make such an "assurance"? So that nobody would feel that they were at risk having to have personal contact with these people? No, of course not, he did so because those are the worst kind of party hosts he himself can imagine, and he can also imagine what would happen to the amiga.org party if it would turn out that those were the new hosts, i.e. he fears that it would have a negative impact on guest attendance. I could easily add a few names who would have the same effect, like MikeyC, MikeB, Ben Hermans, Anonymous former Netscape Employees, etc.

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As for the new owner(s) views and opinions regarding how the site is to be run, Wayne has repeatedly stated that nothing is going to change and the new owner(s) have expressed that they have no intention of making changes, so until something does change, there is nothing we have to worry about, or to endlessly discuss.


With all respect - Wayne doesn't have anything to say about what the new owners decide to do a bit down the road. But not even that was my point. My point was that *it does matter* who's throwing the party. And that anyone should have the right to decide to who's party to attend, and for that to be even possible, you must know who the party host is.

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Your party and host analogy only reaffirms the reasons I gave in my previous post why the new owner might not want to disclose their identity(ies).  If the new owner(s) have had some recent bad press elsewhere, or here in the forums, they would naturally not want to reveal themselves if more members here feel the way you do about the host/party analogy.


And that is OK in your opinion?

I think there are many comments here suggesting otherwise. There is a reason to why people want to know. They want to know who's party they currently are visiting.

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Yes, it is odd and uncomfortable that the new owner has not stepped in and introduced themselves to us the way we would have liked, but that is all it is


It's more than "odd" and "uncomfortable", it's close to outrageous.

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and I think we should not be making more of it, or try to dissect the reason(s), or motives for such decision


Excuse me? Say what?

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The reason given (being a private person(s) that does not want to be the center of attention)


Then he/she/they should perhaps *not* have taken over the biggest amiga forum on Internet? Come on...
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Re: New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 12:55:04 PM »
@ uncharted et al...

And some come here and talk about melodrama... :roll:

Look, just say who owns the site. All this is beyond ridiculous...
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