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Offline takemehomegrandma

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Re: AO Interview - Dave Haynie
« on: October 01, 2003, 08:34:55 PM »
@ Nickman

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Very nice reading.

A big thank you to amiga.org for makeing it and to Dave Haynie for takeing the time to answer all the questions.


Indeed! This is more than an Interview, this is a ... **document** (of history?).

Thanks to Dave for taking the time and putting down the effort, and thanks to amiga.org for making it happen! :-)

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But i guess there will be alot of MOS followers that will be dissepointed by some of his comment


Not me! :-) It's very obvious that he has a lot of emotions attached to the "name", heck, "the name" is probably a big part of his self identity. There is where he made his fame, there is where he made his great accomplishments. I would probably feel exactly the same if I were in his shoes (even though the brand is pretty fücked up by now).

But that does not make his words the "truth" in any way. He has not tried OS4, neither MorphOS, yet he "knows" a lot! ;-) But the explanation to that can probably be found in what I wrote above. Emotions connected to the brand, not facts. I'm OK with that, and I hope he will have an opportunity to try MorphOS soon, I know he will feel right at home!

I also don't agree with his views on "open" platform (á la the x86) vs "proprietary". There is only one reason to why Apple still exists, and that is thanks to their "proprietary" strategy. They are selling one product, one entity, not an OS alone, not HW alone. If they should have stopped doing that and, say, moved over to the open x86 platform, I am pretty sure they would face the same faith as Be did.

It's interesting that he still follows the Amiga platform, at least briefly. I hope he will continue doing that! :-) And thank you again for this very nice interview! :-) :-)
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Re: AO Interview - Dave Haynie
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2003, 08:54:13 PM »
@ ikir

You know, just becase there is a bait, it doesn't mean that you **have to bite it**!
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Re: AO Interview - Dave Haynie
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 09:08:12 PM »
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Actually, most of you are misreading Dave. He does show a certain preference for the Amiga branded solution as opposed to the Genesi one, but that's most likely because he has a certain distrust of some of the personalities involved. There's some sort of history there.


I didn't know that, but I am not surprized since **everyone** still standing in this community seems to have issues with one or more other community members (I include corporations in my definition of "community members"). That is kind of interesting! ;-)

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Remove that sentimental factor, and neither concept has anything that makes it stand out in the cold light of day.


That depends on which day it is! :-P

What I meant was, it depends on what you are comparing to. Sure, neither MorphOS nor OS4 can compete with Windows on the desktop market as it is today (and will they evere be able to do that? Is it even worth spending resources in that direction?), but certainly there are a lot of areas where a lean operating system is more suitable than Windows! And it has no M$ tax to it, so it's cheap (I'm not talking about end users here, I'm talking about Genesi and companies alike). I believe you can make a device (of any kind, a STB, an "Eclipsis") and make it profitable and durable, but only because (and here it comes): it's **proprietary**! So I don't agree with you there ...

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Since many in the MorphOS camp feel they are part of something revolutionary, Dave's comments won't necessarily be welcomed. For my part, I tend to agree with him.


We **are** part of something revolutionary! We are taking part of a new platform emerging! And that is exciting, I can tell you! :-)

In any way, this is more revolutionary than the "Umilator" you know ...  :-P  :-P  ;-)
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Re: AO Interview - Dave Haynie
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2003, 08:32:07 PM »
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Incredible.... we're given a lengthy in depth interview, covering a multitude of topics and this thread is almost entirely preocupied with the fact that Dave Haynie isn't particuarly interested in Morphos.

Very sad indeed.


I agree!

As I mentioned early in this thread, I think it was a great interview, even though I question some statements that obviously was made without knowledge of facts. But I am not troubled with that! The efforts that Dave put down in this document (because that is what it is - a document) is great, and it was indeed a very interesting reading.

(The following is not directed to you, Skyraker)

I also notice how suddenly some people crawl back to the various community forums (not only amiga.org) from whatever corner of the Internet they have spent the last six months or so, just to **fuel the fire**. The fire does not need fuel, it needs a Fire Estinguisher. But actually there is a company that benefit from the split in the community, a company that wants segregation, and thus some people have their agendas ...

Pathetic! I wish those bugs would just silently crawl back under the rocks were they are living these days ...
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)