OS4 rollout schedule

[takemehomegrandma]

@ HyperionMP (and catohagen et al)

About the OS4 on Pegasos issue; IMO, it's in Hyperions interest to get the OS running on interesting hardware. Vesalia is selling the A1 G3 motherboards for €800 and the G4 version for €880. And that is a 133MHz bus, SDR motherboard, without memory, HD, case or the rest of the stuff you need to get going. Sorry, but that's simply not appealing. Some hundred die-hard enthusiast has lined up (not because it's a good deal, but because it's the *only* way to get OS4 running at a fast speed, in a way the entire A1 mobo is a big dongle), but you won't get much more sales of your OS than that.

The Pegasos 1 has pretty much the same specs as the A1 mobo, except it has a smaller form factor, firewire, a digital audio optical connector, etc. But the biggest differense is it's price. The people who simply can not afford the A1 could still afford a Peg1.

The Pegasos 2 will propably be much the same as the Pegasos 1, but it has another Northbridge which supports higher bus speeds and DDR memory. The form factor will propably be the same, and the prices are really attractive. Again, the people who simply can not afford the A1 could still afford a Peg2.

Here is where you want to be! *You* will miss a lot of potential buyers by being tied to the A1 mobo, but it's of course your decision.

To sum it up, the issue is not about whether todays Pegasos owners will be interested in OS4 or not. The issue is about finding decent, good priced hardware for the future OS4 users.

Some questions for you Ben:

From your comments in this thread I get the impression that you (by your AInc deal) are entitled to bring the OS to any kind of hardware of your choice. Is that really true? I was under the impression that you got the exclusive right to develop the OS part of the A1 product, and that Eyetech has the exclusive right to the Hardware part of the product?

Has  Eyetech the right to bring another OS to its hardware and use the Amiga brand for that product?
Has Hyperion the right to bring the OS to another hardware and use the Amiga brand for that (note, you mentioned your OS release for classic Amigas as an example, but IMO that is a bad example, since they allready are amigas from the beginning)?

Regards,

[takemehomegrandma]

meerschaum wrote:

AOS4 seems to be only aiming at a niche portion of this community...

A niche portion of a niche market, that's ... not big!  :-P

[takemehomegrandma]

SidMan wrote:
@grandma

It's a starting point.

And where does it go from there? How many people do you really think is interested in paying €800+ for that kind of motherboard just to be able to use OS4? Some hundred people have (?) obviously bought an A1 mobo, but that is the little niche within the community. Who else? Where is the future for OS4?

I mean this as a serious question; I have asked about the future for the OS4 platform many times, but nobody seems willing to talk about it. Why is that?

OS4 is only one part of a whole; OS4 can not run without hardware. There are some ancient CSPPC cards for even older classic Amigas. There is this A1 mobo that can't be sold to anyone else than those die-hard enthusiasts that has allready bought them. But there is also this Pegasos hardware, good price, interesting features. Affordable and appealing. This could mean that Hyperion reaches a lot more of all the Amigans that are interested in OS4 but doesn't fancy (or can't afford) to put up some good €800 just to be able to run it. So Ben, instead of saying things like "OK, here we go again, Genesi perfectly knows what they have to do in order to get OS4 on to their hardware", perhaps *you* should get a license in order to reach the rest of the Amiga community (and soon also outside). There are/will be lots of OS'es running on Pegasos. There is no reason to why OS4 couldn't be one of them. It's in your own interest Hyperion!

[takemehomegrandma]

@ Ben Hermans

Hi. Feel free to answer my questions! :-)

(PS, when do we see *your* avatar?)

[takemehomegrandma]

@ Ben Hermans

HyperionMP wrote:
Can you maybe start another thread then?

Quite frankly, I've lost track.

Now I got a little disappointed. I spent some time to write these posts with the hope of getting some comments from you. It's there. You can read it now. I am not writing it again.

I think my points are valid. So are my questions. But for some reason it seems to be very difficult to get them answered. Why is that? I wonder why it's more interesting to discuss the color of the storm troopers armor than the future of your OS4 platform? Well, no answer is also a kind of an answer I guess ...