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Offline TheBilgeRat

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Re: A1200 internet/Amiga Internet
« on: April 05, 2013, 05:57:22 PM »
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I don't disagree with the sentiment..
But I limit my spending for this hobby..
My guess is that he'd get a lot more registrations at $10-$15 USD than the few he'll get at $25 Euros...

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The problem is that we no longer live in the 1980s where this sort of thing is a rare beast.  We are in the age where whole operating systems go for 25 euros (OSX) that include such things as TCP/IP stacks, and USB drivers, and a myriad of other things that are required and expected.  That's just the pay front (IE, not linux, where its all free and works).  I get the sentiment that "my time is worth something, dammit!  I deserve to be compensated!" but give me a break.  All we hear is "MorphOS/AOS4 is a rip-off!  Too expensive blah blah blah" followed by "Developers deserve to be paid for their efforts!"  I don't see the Haiku devs demanding money for their project (and by all accounts its farther along than AOS4 is, although not as far along as Morphos).  We're talking about one simple program to connect a very old computer to the internet (assuming that you can find/afford the hardware to get it there).
 

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Re: A1200 internet
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 04:59:41 AM »
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BilgeRat et al.,

MorphOS is a complete and good OS, though I feel it is too Mac-like. OS 4.1 is an excellent Amiga OS; I have used it almost exclusively for over a year. Both are well worth the money.


When I spend money on an operating system and hardware in 2013, I expect some basic things to be included - one of those things is the ability to connect to the internet (or any network for that matter).

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 You can not expect people to spend their free time programming for non-mainstream computers out of the goodness of their heart.


Actually, yes!  Yes you can.  Linux, BSD (open, net, and free...note the "free"), Blender, Gimp, Firefox, Chrome, etc etc etc.  It really doesn't matter about the hardware or its obscurity.  That is what open source is about.

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Yes, there are cheapskates out there who pirate movies, music and Amiga software, but others actually "support" a hobby and don't expect everything for free -- unless you are on Medicaid.


Or... you live in 2013 where people actually code for fun and see the end product as a reward in itself.

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You want a free unsupported hobby, collect and play with your Barbie's. Responsible adults act responsibly and don't expect the world handed them on a plate.


Actually, Barbies can go for some serious money!  Too rich for my blood.
 

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Re: A1200 internet
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 03:17:49 AM »
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MorphOS and OS 4.1 come complete with TCP stack and browsers. Open source software is not exactly free. They can be used without cost but read up on whether they are "Free."  Many of the projects listed are university supported (Linux and Gimp among others); this does not make them "free."  Chrome, like all Google products, are supported by advertising. Here is a hint: if you are not contributing anything to support the Amiga community, it will continue to wither. Same for Linux; it is supported by the contributions of others. Programming for "fun" occurs, I have done it; but I've not seen fun contribute to an environment that encourages those with talent to waste their time being taken advantage of -- WHDLoad.

Those who support nothing are not "users" but leeches, living off the blood of others.


Equating the sweat equity of universities and volunteers to bounties for basic functionality is disingenuous.  The big difference is that there are many many projects (if not most) where the support of the product is not compensated for by the end user.  The fact that you equate coding for "fun" as being "taken advantage of" speaks volumes.  Software piracy has nothing to do with open source, yet you speak as if they are one and the same.  Am I a leech, because I use an operating system I paid nothing for and people smarter than me made sure that it contained all the things I would need to get my hardware online, surfing the web, writing documents, checking email, programming in almost every language out there, and playing games?  I paid for WHDload, as it is an original project with merit and use.  I would have never paid bounties to port free software over to our systems.  Did I pay for all the games I play on WHDload?  How could I?  I purchased some of them years and years ago, but not all of them.  We need less holier than thou and more people willing to roll up their sleeves and close their wallets.