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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« on: March 10, 2013, 08:26:04 PM »
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My friend gave me her old laptop, it's quite the beast, but I don't want Windows on it.

I'm looking for a nice, USER FRIENDLY, GUI driver Linux distro that does not require you to be on-line to install it, and comes with an updated version of Wine.

I'm not to keen on Ubuntu anymore and would like an all in one download solution that I can update on-line when I need to without the OS nagging me during install and what not.

Is there such a thing?

Debian Stable.  You obviously will need to download the install media, but you can download every program in the repo on 5 DVDs and just run with CDROM repo.  It will not have the latest wine, but that is easy enough to obtain and install.  The only updates stable gets are security ones.  Also, its still on Gnome 2 :)

EDIT:  There are some here who would say that USER FRIENDLY and LINUX will never go together...
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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2013, 10:58:13 PM »
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I don't know if I can even use Debian, isn't that sort of complicated to install?

Also I was trying out Aeros r3.5 (with fingers crossed) hoping it would install, but I kept getting kernel panics. I was told that it will work on any hardware that Debian works on...

I did forget to try ZevenOS though. Gonna download it and Pear now and check into them for the time being.

EDIT: Hold on, ZevenOS is Debian based too... well we'll see. If Debian or something Debian based does run that will suck because I REALLY wanted to try out Aeros. :/


It may have been complicated a while ago, but downloading a live cd and installing it is a pretty straightforward affair these days.  I say Debian Stable as it really is rock solid stability wise.  I interpreted your question as "Is there a Linux out there that, once installed, will not be a huge PITA during normal operation and requires very little tweaking and what tweaking it might need can be done from a GUI."  I've been around the block with all the Debian derivatives, but I get tired of eye candy or the "app store" crap.  I much prefer stability and predictability.
 Plus, most of those Debian derivatives run unstable or testing.  Debian Stable is a different beast.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2013, 01:52:12 AM »
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I'll check out Debian next. Thus far Ubuntu, ZevenOS, Areos, and Pear all fail to boot on my machine, they are all locking it up.

Haiku installs fine though and boots in 15 seconds...
...sadly not all the hardware is supported by it yet.

Have any of you heard of this?

http://www.longene.org/en/develop.php


"Please to be installing Most Excellent Backdoored Kernel from the PRC"

lol!  I'll pass.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2013, 01:53:29 AM »
Lets backup and ask:  What brand of laptop and model is it?

This might help in determining what is going on.  Haiku installing and Linux not installing is very weird.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2013, 01:54:21 AM »
Lets backup and ask:  What brand of laptop and model is it?

This might help in determining what is going on.  Haiku installing and Linux not installing is very weird.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2013, 05:37:22 AM »
I don't see any reason why Linux shouldn't run on that laptop.  From ArchWiki (wouldn't recommend it for "user friendly", but the kernels are kernels):

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dell_Inspiron_1521

Lucid Lynx is EOL in April.  I would try not installing a 3.x kernel and install a 2.6 kernel instead.  Most distros should allow you to do this.  There should be no reason you are getting kernel panics if Haiku installs...weird.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 06:54:48 PM »
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I use Crunch Bang. Very lightweight using openbox and thunar. Uses Debian stable and so far, in the 6 months i have been using it, no issues at all.


That's because its Debian Stable :)

I've used a lot of distros, and if you want no nonsense rock solid stability there is nothing better.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 03:41:51 AM »
Mint is not meant for a 7 year old laptop, and KDE 4x is certainly not meant for one that old either.  Crunch BAng, or Bodhi, running E17 or openbox is more the right speed.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 02:23:39 PM »
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Oh ya? Hmmm, so much of the Linux community acts like Microsoft and Apple when it comes to resources too hugh? We got em' why not waste em'? :)


Anymore, yes :/  KDE 4.x, Unity, and Gnome 3.x are monuments to this thinking.  While Nicholas says he has KDE 4 running on 11 year old hardware just fine, I would not assume that to hold without loss of generality.  The simple truth is you will sacrifice some speed for eye candy, and sacrifice some ease (as in "push button change config") of configuration with faster, lighter weight solutions.  The integrated distros (crunchbang, linux mint LXDE edition, Lubuntu?  So many) that use LXDE, or E17, or Openbox + will run much faster on older hardware, period.

Having SAID that...  As commodore john has pointed out, Linux can..er..suck.  It is still not windows - and coming from a windows background can be obtuse and confusing as to how they do things.  I have never set up a linux that is completely GUI driven for all setup yet.  They may be out there - I just don't know of them.

BUT, if you don't mind some googling and a bit of tinkering at first (I mean, c'mon!  We are Amiga people in 2013!  We are no strangers to obtuse breakages and googling) you can end up with a very stable system.

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O.K. you got my attention. Windows is pissing me off again too. :)

Any of those distros you mentioned make it easy to find out what drivers you need and get them without having to be a Linux guru?

Man I wish AROS fully supported this, I could just drag and drop the required drivers to where I need them. :/


Like Nicholas said, mostly all drivers should automagically be found by the kernel during install.  From you laptop's era, the couple of things that probably won't be found are wireless card drivers (lots of closed hardware blobs not linuxable right out of the box) and wintel modems.  Everything else should be fine, if at least functional.  These days, even Nvidia drivers are installed (via the Nouveau driver set).  Your laptop has an Intel set if I remember right, so it should have no problems on the display side.  I've never run into an install in the last 14 years that wouldn't display.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2013, 05:40:45 PM »
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Erm, my 11yr old step-daughter has it running on her 7yr old hardware. lol


Oh!  That makes more sense :lol:
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2013, 10:57:08 PM »
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Oh man!I almost fell in love with Crunch Bang! It almost felt worthy of my use, till I could not find WINE in the Package repository, and when I try to install ANY browser, it always fails in the end.

On a positive note, my wireless was ready to go straight off the bat.

Cuss cuss cuss!!! :/


http://wiki.winehq.org/GitWine  ;)

Plus, iceweasel should be installed by default.  (that is firefox without the branding)
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 02:47:22 AM »
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Long live Haiku! I can't wait to see how things go after 1.0 hits the net!


IF 1.0 hits :)

I like Haiku as well, but it is taking its sweet time to get here.  Also, while I love tinkering with it on my P4, it needs to get going on the 64 bit bandwagon.  Who knows, tho - its really a great time for OSes.
 

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Re: Offline User Friendly Linux Distro with Updated Wine?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 02:08:44 PM »
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Also on a side note the new Fedora release has come out. This is another Debian based system but uses Gnome 3 or KDE. I put it on a friends netbook and it liked it.


Fedora - Debian based?  Er...