Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...

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Update?

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The interesting Saga continues

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Perhaps somebody can try to explain this to me, because I don't get it. Not to mention the fact that the consensus here seems to be: "Research sucks, let's behave like twelve years olds".

What is your point, cupcake?  You seriously can't be bothered to read this thread from the very beginning?  If you are too stupid to open your eyes, perhaps you shouldn't open your mouth.

But there is an easy solution.  Go to the first post in this thread.  Read it.  Then read the second post.  Then read every { x | x ∈ ℕ } posts until finished.

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They are a licensee, not a licensor. Is that so very difficult to understand?

I think it is for most of the continental Europeans responding in this thread, which to me says their objections are less about the facts and more that they dislike Franko, OR that their understanding of what is piracy (ironic, considering that all the great torrent sites are European) and ownership is different.  Koft, Piru, and others have made it pretty clear that they see Franko as simply an attention-grabbing whore, so whatever Franko does or doesn't do is going to be met with disinterest at best and caustic retort at worst.

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Blah Blah Blah

And who are you?  You joined this month, my guess a few days ago.  I feel you are more likely to be representing an interested party than Franko, who, while being a loud obnoxious scotsman, at least has the balls to be open and honest about who he is.

So, either you are a Cloanto rep, or you are a regular on here without the stones to post under an account that people know.  Either way, you are a coward.

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cowardly drivel

Who are you, again?  That's right, a shill account.

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Which is indeed what Amiga Forever explains on their site:

http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-122

They also have a page where they explain how they re-licensed some things found on the original floppy disks, the rights of which had expired (like the speech), but I can't seem to find that now.

Really?  Can't find information on your own website?

Who are you?

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Forget it.  The Amiga deserves its fate.  I have never met a bigger group of backstabbing children in my entire life.

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Ha ha!

Damn.  I was going to quote your schadenfreude for posterity so you couldn't edit it away.

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The answer to the topic is: for real floppy disks buy NOS original sets from amigakit or second hand originals. For emulation in any guise (minimig, mcc216 & natami counts as emulation) then amiga forever.

It seems that the answer is now for Floppies, use Google and pirate them, and for emulation, download the free WinUAE or UAE and either grab ROMS from your own computer or trusty Google again.  This whole thread has soured me terribly on Cloanto.

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Like this hasn't already been common knowledge for the last 15 years...

Well, if you would look on the main page, there's a gentleman who just dug his A1000 out of his mom's basement and has no kickstart or workbench disks.  He's looking for one, but I'm pretty sure just asking for one violates the sites TOS for "NO WAREZ."  He would prefer not to steal.  As would I.  So, if you are saying that owning a classic Amiga forces your hand, well...that sucks!  This is the reason Franko started this thread, not because he is an attention whore, as Koftader stated here and on Moobunny, but because people deserve to be able to legally obtain proper disks for their classic machines.  So, to answer your question -- it is not common knowledge, and even if it were, does not make it right.

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I don't get it, how will Franko offering pirated wares going to help this guy when he obviously needs Amiga formatted disk with WB on them?   Some how I can't Franko offering to send people Amiga formatted disk with WB on them that too many people would be complaining about it because:

1. Only an Amiga would be able to use it (minus catweasle or other floppy controller/emulator owners).

2. It that format, pirates wouldn't be interested in it.

Too much work for Franko and he doesn't get the instant gratification of having his name talked about a million times, hence no ego stroke.  Quick PM to the user looking for it for an address to send the disk to, and it's all done and finished.  Can't have that, no one would be talking about Franko that way.

Well, in a proper world it wouldn't be Franko at all, it would be the actual copyright holders or retailers (Vesalia, AmigaKit), and the gentleman could buy it properly.  I get that you and red and many others just hate Franko.  Apart from that, I believe Franko was genuinely trying to get a hold of the proper copyright holders whether you approve of his methods or not (who were a no-show), and that if given the opportunity, would love to buy actual floppies or ADFs of the actual software.

There is so much retarded hate in this community over stuff decided 15 years ago.  Amiga LOST.  It is barely a market.  If you want it even to be a barely thriving niche hobby, the issue of classic OS needs to get resolved.  Stealing should not be an option.  Forking out money for AF should not be an option.  The option should be to plunk down some moolah to Vesalia or AmigaKit to download or purchase floppies and ROMS from 1.0 to 3.1 of the classic OS.  Hell, most of it could be made to order (in the case of ROMS).

When AROS is 1.0 Final, there may be a different landscape.  It's time to stop letting stupid pride get in the way of the thing that brought us all together.

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Yes, and that would be:
Making fun of Atari ST owners for being so stupid that they even made 68K Mac owners looks slightly less stupid themselves??



desiv

Yes!  :lol:

Although I wonder if Atari users have to deal with the BS surrounding their OS....