NTSC - what a bunch of junk

[TheBilgeRat]

While installing the 3.1 ROMS and WB3.1 in my A4000, I decided to give my motherboard the switchover to PAL as the defacto standard. HAving never bothered to run workbench in the PAL modes up until now, all I can say is NTSC is the most flickery POS I have ever seen.  Super Hi res mode in PAL has barely barely noticeable flicker.  I know it's kind of a moot point these days, but man did the US and anyone else on that crappy NTSC standard drop the ball.

[TheBilgeRat]

What does that even mean?  You got out an exacto knife and started chopping traces?

No, I switched the jumper from "NTSC" to "PAL".

The nicest thing I can say to you right now is "WTF!?"

Whatever video you are viewing, it is NOT NTSC.

Nothing in your entire message makes any sense at all.
Are you drunk?  or on some kind of medication?

Not drunk or on meds.  Could be lack of sleep?

[TheBilgeRat]

hmm, NTSC should indeed be less flickery. Is your TV definitely NTSC?

Its a 1084S using the monitor cable that it came with.  It is definitely old and has issues, but for some reason the non laced superhires PAL mode looks a lot better than its NTSC equivalent.

[TheBilgeRat]

NTSC resolutions look perfectly fine on my NTSC equipment - I've never seen any kind of flickering with any of it unless it's running in an interlaced mode (which it isn't, ever, because I hate interlacing.) There's certainly complaints to be made about the smaller vertical resolution, but if you're getting serious flicker in non-interlaced modes, something's probably screwed up.

that is probably the case, actually.  This monitor has seen better days.  Maybe the freq PAL is on isn't as "used up"  :lol:

[TheBilgeRat]

No.
It was a serious question.
I was hoping he would say yes, as the alternatives that I am thinking of are horrifically scary. That his motherboard has braindamage, or he suffering a stroke at this very moment or having some kind of seizure like that newslady had.

Nothing about his post makes any sense at all.

1. Switching from PAL to NTSC is an effortless thing done with software not hardware.

One switches to NTSC mode by one of the following methods:
A: Run a little proggy, such as PALboot, NTSCboot, Degrader, etc.
B: Hold down both mouse buttons at powerup and use the early startup-menu to switch between PAL and NTSC by pressing the space bar.
C: From workbench, you can select an NTSC screenmode at any time.




All 3 of those options are easier than opening the case, and pulling all kinds of hardware out of the computer so that one can see the motherboard and then moving a jumper and putting it all back together again.

All true, except I was in there already replacing my 3.0 roms with 3.1 roms and I have no zorro cards to move out of the way.

Any A4000 can switch in and out of PAL mode instantly, at the user's command.  If one has a strange monitor that freaks out with NTSC signals then one can instantly change back.

2. NTSC is less flickery than PAL.

Seems logically argued.  My bad.

[TheBilgeRat]

Anyway, I've always found switching the motherboard to PAL mode to be the way to go, since it makes it a lot easier to run the foreign games which are so readily available and won't run in NTSC mode.  On the off-chance I need NTSC, there's always the early startup menu. With an LCD I don't have to worry about PAL flicker.

This was basically it.  I was spending more time holding down the mouse buttons to switch into PAL for some games, as most of my productivity software is NTSC/PAL agnostic.

[TheBilgeRat]

I know you are not using interlace.  But do you have any kind of hardware flickerfixer installed?

No.

[TheBilgeRat]

If it is a monitor problem then try this:
Use workbench in NTSC HIRES mode (640x200).  See how it looks.

Then switch to PAL HIRES (640x256).  You should then see how much better NTSC looked.

tried that - the opposite is true.