mac and pc sucks!!!!

[TheBilgeRat]

I know its easy to bash the big bad corporations for being, well, big and bad... but without a steady profit stream there is no innovation and next greatest thing.  Right now its all windows and intel, sure, with a smattering of linux here and there (and mac too, yes yes).  Progression is not always clean and happy.  Yes windows is bloatware, but then again so is Ubuntu and MacOS.  At some point the keyboard and mouse will be relegated to the trash heap and we can name our computer AI's and carry them around in little crystal storage units.  The explosion of the computer market out of the hands of geeks and people willing to tinker into the hands of soccer moms stalking their children on facebook is sadly progression of a sort.

[TheBilgeRat]

I can tell this issue sits poorly with you so I'll attempt to be fair and unantagonistic.  The one thing windows does bang up well is run mostly decent on 90% of the hardware manufactured out there.  Mac?  Closed.  Amiga?  It was also a closed hardware system for the most part.  The clones won the hardware war.  Doesn't make them right or better, It just is.  And MS does an awesome job at running mostly stable on all of it.

[TheBilgeRat]

If you have old machines like P4s, I'd recommend puppy linux or XP.

My "ancient" P4 board runs any DE or WM just fine in Linux.  Currently I'm running Xubuntu (which really isn't that much less bloated than Ubuntu proper) and would be running Arch if I didn't have a crappy Marvell wireless card that makes me want to smash my head in trying to set it up with ndiswrapper.  This is even with the Intel issue (feature) of taking 1.2G of ram of 4G away from me for "system needs" :madashell:  Would I run Crysis 2 on this?  No.  But it plays 1080p vids no sweat while I surf faceyspace or play flash games.  Heck, I'm still running a 7 series Nvidia card! :lol:

[TheBilgeRat]

No amount of decent code will get Crysis to run on a PC-XT w/ an EGA card.

Nor a P4 3ghz with a 7 series Nvidia.  Oh wait-itll run good as long as I keep it to 1024x768 and no antialiasing

I think (hope) we scared him off

No not really, I'd like to let him play a modern game on one of my pcs. Maybe something like Bioshock or Bioshock 2 on my current rig, then setup one of my P4's and run the same game.

Yeah.  This is kind of why I went console.  I find the price point to obsolescense is much better.  I mean, sure, with an awesome monitor and screming PC Fallout 3 would look that much denser, etc.  On my 360 at 1080p on a big LCD it looks plenty amazing.  I've had my 360 since 2006 and it still plays modern games.  I've had my P4 only slightly longer, and it is relegated to the occasional game of Civ 4 or Nexuiz :lol:.

Not knocking it, just knocking that I cant throw down a grand or two on a 12 core SLI screamer ATM

[TheBilgeRat]

Except Powerpoint can go die in a fire.  I recently went back to college and lectures these days are ppt plus a printed handout of the slideshow outline :madashell:.

I despise the overuse of powerpoint.  Now excel... I couldn't have done any of my previous jobs without it.  Pivot Tables, graphs...IMHO the best thing MS has ever done is Excel.  I've tried OO's version, just isn't the same.