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Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« on: February 20, 2011, 10:57:26 AM »
hi all Amiga fans
Everyone "claims" to own kickstart. Ofcourse if they didn't they would loose the ground upon which they stand. Dig into the history of the kickstart, it has to be one of the saddest stories ever... It has ben sold, resold, in whatever maner there is. No wonder some folks tend to think it is.... for taking....

If there ever was a time to set kickstart free.... now it is ;)

http://sites.google.com/site/freeamiga/#TOC-Amiga-Documents-2.2.1

http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/ahistory.html
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2011, 11:10:19 AM »
no fishing.. the big stick
Money is no relevans... freedom is

why donate to something that is already free...

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2011, 12:21:12 PM »
The Kickstart rights, it is the must Bullsh.t, I have ever seen!!

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2011, 12:33:29 PM »
Quote from: Forcie;616720
Because no matter how free you might consider the kickstart being, you are going to have a hard time digging up and opensourcing the AmigaOS source code if you want to improve and add to it. That is why the AROS initiative is so important, and in my opinion well worth donating to.

Love your games btw.


Thanks..  :) Do check out our Amiga/iPhone projekt (Battle Squadron ONE) though i am deeply sadden by reading about the kickstart

The Amiga was ment to be free (no bounds).. people strap off your bellys, put your sofa on default.... The Amiga is alive but needs your help....

WE need a serious shaking going on....
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2011, 01:38:25 PM »
Quote from: Golem!dk;616731
And just how are you going to do that?


"Mind trick, my friend...." - Yoda

haha, ok seriously ;)

"We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them."
quote a famous scientist

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2011, 02:47:05 PM »
Quote from: Khephren;616739
The AROS kickstart should make the whole legal tangle just disapear (hopefully). Then we won't care who owns the old out of date kickstart.

Although I would like to know who really owns it, just to finally know! My bets are on who ever bought gateway.


AROS is such a beautiful project.. :)

Who is that entity that claims to own the girl of Amiga... I WANT TO SEE IT NOW...!!

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2011, 03:20:00 PM »
Quote from: number6;616749
Like I said before, Pluritas has been engaged to sell the AI IP.

Potential buyer: "Before I bid, please tell me what I am bidding on"
Pluritas will either
(1)mention kickstart or
(2)not, which could indicate 2 things.

(1)It's not theirs to sell or
(2)They don't know either.

Mystery solved.

#6


I didnt post your qoute, check comp for virus... anyways...

1. Selling boble air
2. Boble air with antivirus
3. Boble air with antivirus from mikrosoft
4. delete your system, reboot and reinstall.... bliiiip.

lol

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2011, 07:25:48 PM »
Quote from: number6;616753
Heh. True. But you had the same questions.
My fault for posting from an Amiga, something none of the IP holders/sellers seem to know much about.

#6

 haha dark sarcasm... love it ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2011, 12:40:24 AM »
Quote from: huronking;616784
Since with fuel injection and electronic ignition nothing is kickstarted anymore,
and for the last 17 years we've been dreaming about an Amiga future anyway-

Lets just call the future kernal Suckstart, since any Amiga capable of running it will be mythical and elusive- and be the lore of barroom anecdote.


You're right... doesn't dreams sometimes become reality...

For many... when the Amiga first saw the light of day it was to many... a dream come true ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2011, 02:45:14 AM »
I challenge amiga.inc and Hyperion, to bring forth any material that they consider to hold the Amiga girl in bondage....

or forever be silent....

The kickstart should be downloadable upon donation request... :)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2011, 10:08:12 AM »
Quote from: Franko;616858
I agree 100% that kickstart images should be available to purchase easily... (not encrypted ones like on Amiga Forever along with stuff you may not want or need) but how many years has all the arguments and counters arguments being going on for... :(

It way past time for anyone who want's them and is not able to purchase them easily should have the opportunity to obtain them on the net for free, cos apart from a few whingers on here still harping on about copyright, who actually cares any more , certainly not the various companies who claim they own them otherwise if these companies did care then why can they be easily found on the net... :)

It's ruddy pointless still going on about them in this day and age, if you really want them then just look on the net and you'll find them easily... :)


Franko.. right on ;)

It is not just pointless, it is such total bullsh.t.

Franko, when was the last time you gave Hybris a spin?? ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2011, 06:35:27 PM »
Quote from: Franko;617012
@ Number6

It's not disturbing it's just pointless, until the day someone can finally & conclusively and with a shadow of a doubt prove who owns what... :)

Until then let the armchair lawyers like Dammy spout their unfounded and unproven legal views, in the meantime I'll just set the stuff free once again and see if anyone who can genuinely prove ownership of it comes forward and demands I stop... :)


Franko, you have a very very good point here :)

Instead of spending time turning things upside down......

I challenge that entity that claims hold the Amiga girl in bondage...

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2011, 07:11:09 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;616985
yeah, i officially no longer give a crap who legally owns anything about the amiga, since none of them seem very interested in making any of it easily available to the amiga community. I say let's throw our support behind the open kickstart effort, use our outdated os of choice, and let these people rot.


yeees  ;)

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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2011, 07:30:11 PM »
Quote from: dammy;617010
It's been said publically on commodore-amiga.org that C=USA does have a license from AI for kickstart/wb.


That does not make it truesfull, it is basically just bla bla bla... a claim based on air...!!!

The Amiga community had been had with tricksters for years...
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Re: Set the Amiga free... (kickstart)
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2011, 07:45:46 PM »
Quote from: number6;617043
Different topic from the "we think we know who owns this one" file, released a few days ago:

http://www.trademarkia.com/logo-78940434.html

Perhaps a legal minded person can explain "Word Mark:

(NO WORD)". Does that mean we're talking about the picture only and not the term "boingball"?

#6


number 6, you need to get your legal base straight, A trademark... HAS NOTHING to do with copyright or IP.