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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« on: October 28, 2015, 05:58:40 PM »
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Even for a dev 68k offers advantages because much more development options including lots of optimized compilers. Free Pascal f.e. also works on 68k, of course you need lots of horsepower. There is also no reason why in future even modern software should be ported to it.


What 68k lacks is proper SDK. To develop for 68k you have to collect it from the pieces. Get NDK from one place, compiler from another place, then download various standard linklibs (z, png, etc.) to get started. And finally download extra header files from yet another place to get an access to bsdsocket.library and other "standard" stuff but you might still found out that there is nowhere stdint.h, there are N+1 ixemul implementations all incompatible and everything else is in abandonded state.

I'd like to port some software from MorphOS to 68k, like Snoopium, but it always takes too much time to get all pieces together and it never gets done.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 07:56:10 AM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;798354
A strange question to ask. The legacy system of course. It runs all the Amiga applications I have, without emulation, exactly how I need them to run. If I want a fast modern system: That's the PC running here. That's a lot more practical for day work than anything that is remotely related to Amiga.


Interesting. I cant understand where is the fun using Workbench on tiny 640x256 screen with 16 colours. I could invest $1000 to an accelerator and gfx card but that ship sailed long time ago.
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Re: User wants (from "Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology")
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »
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@itix

Some people enjoy collecting stamps, some knit, grow their garden, parachute/basejumping, fix old/new chars...and some even enjoy limited/old hardware(gasp).

Point is; fun is subjective. What makes sense to you, could be boring/unintresting to others.
I could point to one of my cousins; I and a bunch of other cousins (and friends) have LAN parties at my place every 3-4 months. He enjoys drinking with us in general, but its just something in his genome that automatically makes him reject the notion to spend a few days playing computer games, messing with hardware and generally going *nerd*.

Thats fine. Different fun for different people.

Looking at the sprawling C64 scene, Id say people still find very limited hardware intresting.


Sure, I have Amiga 500 and Commodore 64 and I'd like to code something for Kickstart 1.3 again. I just think A1200 with rtg+040/060 is an old generation "NG Amiga". Many games dont run on RTG, many games dont run on 040 or 060, it is just feature crippled OS4/MOS.
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Re: User wants (from "Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology")
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2015, 10:14:03 AM »
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On Aros Vision I have WHDLoad and many games run on it, when adding original roms from Amigaforever almost anything runs. And that when using RTG.


You mean when using UAE? :-) Because I only had an VGA monitor most games didnt work on my A1200. Even when I didnt have an RTG but had DblPal Workbench they failed miserably.

With WinUAE you of course are not stuck with those old hardware limitations anymore.

But you got me interested. I try to download WinUAE today and look if I can get AROS Vision booting in less than 30 mins. If not, I probably lose my interest ;)
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2015, 11:37:31 AM »
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My workbench is something like 800x600 in 256 colors, but never mind that. The point is: None of the "Amiga" systems is suitable for productive work anyhow. It's a system for retrocomputing, and the 68K does exactly that. So never mind running a workbench at 640x256 because that's exactly how it is supposed to be. If you want to run productive work, there's a PC.

I dont want retrocomputing, I have Amiga 500 for that. Just a computer that is always on, can get to internet and do some coding when I feel like it. PC or Amiga, doesnt really matter to me. I have got both. And iPad that has rendered internet use on computers to minimum.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2015, 01:06:01 PM »
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But then you have already what you need. A PC for the productive work, and an Amiga 500 for the old stuff. So where's exactly the need for AOS/PPC/Os4/Morphos/...?


Coding. C# on PC, C on MorphOS.

In theory it could be C on/with UAE but MorphOS has spoiled me to not accept hacky patchy systems.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2015, 01:41:22 PM »
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What hacky patchy system? :)


The one you get when you take Kickstart 3.1 and add tons of patches to make it usable :)
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