Amiga One X 1000 and Xena/Xorro

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Exactly!

Why do so many people posting to Amiga related forums miss this point.  We use these systems because we like how they work.  To us, they are fun to use, and we want to expand what we can do on them and with them to new applications.

But you can already buy xcore dev boards and in fact people are making good use of them.

"Because we can" is not plausible because they other can, too. They dont have to rely on Windows or Linux but they could use Haiku or one of less known BSD variations.

Will it be something revolutionary and amazing that has never been done on any other platform?  Probably not, but it will be different in the way it is implemented, due to the unique interface that it is connected to on the X1000.  As long as it is useful to a few people, it will be interesting to me.

Dont hold your breath. You are hoping to find a problem where X1000 could be a solution. I cant say such problem cant exist but after three or four years odds are looking very small...

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Thanks for that AmigaDave.

We have produced Xorro development boards (which are available) and are working on a couple of Xorro specific projects. We are also including an improved Xena/Xorro combination in the AMIGAone X5000, thanks to the specification and hard work of Lyle.

As for complaints, most of the comments appear to come from none AMIGAone X1000 owners?

Of course because 99% of Amiga community members are not X1K owners.

They say Amiga users are very smart.

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It's possible, it would be interesting to see what uses people could find for it in a classic Amiga.
Audio applications have already been suggested, XENA could give us a 16/24 bit sound card, speech recognition perhaps, can XENA implement an Ethernet port?, how about an SD card interface, USB port, it could drive a pair of ultrasonic transducers to give us similar functionality to that MS device whose name escapes me at the moment. EDIT: Kinnect.
XENA could give us a multifunction card that could evolve as people developed the software to implement new interfaces and ideas.
Software support would evolve faster if more people were trying to use XENA.

But XENA is not that. It is just renamed XMOS chip. XMOS chip itself is capable to do many tasks and projects you suggested are more or less possible. But it would be just piece of electronics.

Instead of XMOS chip (XENA) also FPGA could be used or off the shelf network interface chips. They are relatively cheap, was it XMOS, FPGA or some other chip. But designing Amiga expansion card with any chip is expensive. You need good knowledge of Amiga hardware (which kind of knowledge is fading) and you need someone to write drivers so your favorite TCP/IP stack can use your new ethernet card.

It is also reason why there are no Xena applications for X1000. It is easier to buy supported sound card from ebay than design one yourself from the scratch including drivers and electronics work. It could be fun but those who find it fun are rare.

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@Dandy

This is "classic" Amiga forum so most users here see it from "classic" view of point.

Anyway, JTAG is just an interface to debug boards. It can be part of Amiga expansion boards or to anything you can wish for. But you need JTAG programmer cable and software to use JTAG programmer. You can get USB models for 1500 EUR, PCI debuggers used to be cheaper and I guess there is some free software for Linux you can use for this task. With JTAG you can run software from the host computer on your dev board, examine memory, set breaking points etc. Very handy for software development.

To use JTAG debugger you can have graphical development environment or use command line. Command line is just used to upload software, set breakpoints and other stuff you know. The target enviroment itself is not executing those commands.

OS4 dont have JTAG software but I believe you can use PC or even some Linux distro on X1K if there are free drivers not locked to x86. So called "classic" Amiga is probably too slow to debug your SW in real time (i.e. to get debug prints via JTAG) but you dont really need fast machine to use JTAG. But as usual your problem is lack of software and lack of drivers to use JTAG programmers. I dont think there is going to be any.

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My hope is that XENA/XORRO might also one day become one of the most important "ambassadors" for the AmigaOne X1000 in conjunction with a 3rd party "killer" add-on for the A1 X1k, like the "VideoToaster" did for the A2k.

A1 X1K was launched in 2010. Amiga 2000 was launched in 1987. To relate with this X1K should be living Amiga year 1991 now.