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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« on: May 25, 2012, 06:59:27 AM »
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Even if this thing ends up as an '040 accel, if it offers all the goodies like RAM expansion, USB, network, etc. that it promises to - it will be an absolute godsend for 3000/4000 owners.


 Shame that anything beyond 128 MB is unreachable by Zorro DMA.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2012, 12:22:42 AM »
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2012, 12:29:58 AM »
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At least we are moving forward now, instead of being stuck with 199x hardware. Who knows, maybe in future this will be the compatible CPU and all currently in use PPC's will be the incompatible ones... :)


Is there any reason why you didnt pick ARM core or x86 chip? I mean, since you dont aim for backward compatibility there could have been more cost effective options?
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2012, 06:04:28 AM »
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well I have no idea - I'm assuming it isn't from your remarks - always good to avoid the "point" and be pedantic. major components are - which was the point - that amiga projects benefit from open source, yet often give back very little. in this case, criticism over hardware about compatibility, when you could just as easily blame the software for being closed for the "incompatiblities".


I think you misunderstood Piru this time. Who is using open source compositing engine? Certainly someone is using open source compositing engine but dont like to admit it publicly.

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Many of the posts on slashdot were right imho (re morphos). You just dont see it, and hence you will only have a small userbase and developers (such as myself) will stay away and work on other things.


There are n+1 open source Amiga projects on google code and sf.net. From Aminet you can find more open source stuff. Problem is not that there isnt enough open source code to make this accelerator board project float.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2012, 06:50:09 AM »
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Instead of bashing the card and looking for all the impossibilities it would be nice if people looked at the posibilities instead. With some effort this could be a future, at least for the classic owners out there...


I am sure it is nice accelerator board but porting project is enormous.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 05:08:44 PM »
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Itix' remark hints at yet another conspiracy theory amongst Morphos developers - I assure you I have zero knowledge about OS4's compositing engine and how it came into existance.


Sorry, my fault this time. It was an educated guess based on a hearsay from a beta tester.
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Re: UltimatePPC and everything else
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 05:20:51 PM »
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that sounds like an expensive way to run aros.


That is another problem. It only has averagely performant 68040 to run Workbench but it is relatively expensive toy to run AROS/PPC. AROS/PPC on the other hand is not designed for 68k compatibility and Janus UAE solutions are slower than 68040 on that board.

If it ever runs WarpUp kernel on that board but PPC (PUP+WUP) software library is small. And before someone is going to get his hopes up for new software I should remind that both PUP and WUP kernels implement only bare minimum (Ralph might kill me for that, tho...). There are all those cache flush and context switch issues and developer support ceased to exist aeons ago.

Software support for this board is more than problematic and complex.
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