Amount of MorphOS copies sold

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@iggy

Indeed... and there are over 7000 downloads for Basilisk II MorphOS port. It is five times more than there are Amiga users.

Generally when reading download stats it appears that on average OS4 and MorphOS software is getting similar download figures. So I would assume user bases are close to each others. No idea where AROS is going but it seems its user base is similar to MorphOS -- pretty quiet feet on earth people.

[itix]

That's your guess. Okay. Let's look at it another way. How active are the following forums:
http://www.amigans.net/
http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/
http://aros-exec.org/

At the time of writing, 7 topics on amigans.net had posts from 'Today', 2 topics from morphzone.org had posts from '11-03-2012' (today's date), and 9 topics from aros-exec.org had posts from 'Today'. Your definition of active users may be different from mine, but seems unlikely to me that MorphOS users are that much quieter/less opinionated than OS4 and AROS users, seems much more likely to me that there are just fewer users who are actively involved with MorphOS. YMMV.

On the other hand when I was in Amiganoid 2011 event (my first Amiga event in 10 years so I keep repeating it) there were more OS4 machines demoed than AROS+MorphOS machines in total (also OS4 beta testers were exceeding number of AROS/MorphOS users there). So I wouldnt measure user base by its community activity or anything like that.

But I wouldnt claim MorphOS has more users than AROS and SO4 in total. It is completely wrong and also irrelevant when number of users is counted in hundreds.

[itix]

1. Less than half of all MorphOS users are regular forum users.
2. MorphOS doesn't have double the number of users after all.

I hope this makes sense.

Both 1 and 2 are true.

In fact I know certain user on #amigaworld who is using MorphOS only since he sold all his OS4 machines. However he only posts about OS4, posts OS4 videos, promotes OS4 on every chance. He never asks anything about MorphOS nor posts about it.

[itix]

It's also irrelevant because of the sliding definition of "users". I downloaded AmiKit a few weeks ago. I have booted it up a couple of times, and I even provided some bug reports that led to a new release. I still have it on my computer. Am I a user?

I haven't booted up my Pegasos 2 for three years, but I have it here with MorphOS installed. Am I a Pegasos 2 user? And similar - people having AmigaOne XE's collecting dust besides their PC's, not having used it forever, but actively participating in OS4 discussions on Amigaworld.net using Google Chrome on the Windows 7 box, are they OS4 users?

In real world companies dont count how many users there are but how many copies they have sold. So from the MorphOS team POV only interesting graph should be number of MorphOS licenses sold. From Hyperion Entertainment POV only interesting graph should be number of OS4 licenses they have sold.

To AROS developers number of downloads is similarly only interesting figure. It is not comparable to number of licences but should give some idea is interest growing or declining.

[itix]

So what do you base this 'quantifiable fact' on? Is it just that MorphOS runs some software that OS4 doesn't, or do you have some better evidence than this?

Design decisions prevent running certain software on OS4. SnoopDos, MCP, MCX and any other software patching system vectors are out of question. Most 68k drivers are still compatible with MorphOS (although they are no use in Pegasos or Mac). Even 68k Workbench can be used in MorphOS.

Warp3D compatibility is known to be better in MorphOS. Ixemul compatibility is better in MorphOS (OS4 port lacks features like automatic stack enlargement).

WarpUp and PowerUp compatibility is obviously superior in MorphOS but it is not 68k software although WarpUp is part of AmigaOS 3.5/3.9.

68k MUI classes can be mixed with the system. AFAIK in OS4 it is not working.

Other minor details I remember is that in MorphOS MEMF_CHIP and MEMF_FAST are availab le so old software allocating specific memory type is not failing. Certain 68k->PPC and PPC->68k cross calls are supported better in MorphOS.

[itix]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ah, those were the days...

I miss Ann :-)

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By the way, to all of you who don't know, I worked for Commodore selling Amiga's for over three years, all three years I won salesman of the year award by my store for selling Amiga's, and really got tired of hearing , no thanks I will buy a Mac because it is a real computer by some real stupid people who after questioning them why they thought the Mac was a real computer? their answer was because my friend has one.

And you went to insult your customers then?

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I just wish MorphOS would have continued their support for the PPC Amiga board, but then again we are talking about a real rare beast, aren't we. I really have no qualms about MorphOS just the platform they run on.

it is shame that last PPC Amiga boards were made almost 15 years ago. They were nice, I had one, but they are very slow.