SAM 460 poor performance, high price

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Actually Eyetech where doing ok with sales of the Amigaone it was more their hardware problems and suppliers that was their undoing.

They were? Didnt Alan Redhouse say they were making loss with their AmigaOne? Even when sold at some $1000 price. I have never seen proof Eyetech was doing ok.

Plus Acube must of sold enough Sam board to warrant developing 440 flex and 460 systems.

Did OS4 sales warrant new systems or was it sales to Linux market?

Plus Hyperion and A-eon I sure must know the Os4 users number must think their is enough demand for a new high end system.

Apart from existing OS4 users there isnt demand... In Finland there apparently isnt any market for this. In other countries it seems it is existing OS4 users, same for X1K beta testers I have met or seen.

Plus if they get the AmigaONE X1000 out and sell the planned first batch of 250 machine they are building (im sure I read that some where) at let say £2,000 that's £500,000.00 a half a million pound turn over, I would not consider that a fail. I think that number of units is just about doable judging by the amount of interest in it. what can I say other than....i believe.

If they could even get beta tester boards out. It is terribly late already and I dont expect machines arrive until end of 2011.

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i define all OS'es that can't follow the 2011 standards as crap. You know it and i know it that we're both using crap that would not had a chance even 10 years ago.

Saying Amiga is crap is weird argument to spend thousands of dollars.

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so lets say £1,500 is the total cost of each X1000 so they make £500 on each system at £2,000 so they would need to sell 400 machines to break even. (well their are around 2,000+ OS4 users? + Xmos users + linux PPC fans) so maybe they could still sell that many at that price.

Dont count on Linux. Genesi tried that only to find out Linux PPC users do not exist. Linux PPC is (was) mostly ran as an alternative OS on Macs or Amigas (A1, Peg, APUS).

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"2) How many AmigaOne boards have been sold so far and what is your  opinion on the demand for the current boards and upcoming Micro1A  boards?
Alan: From the publicly available figures it seems  that we have delivered more AmigaOne boards than any other 'open' (ie  not IBM or Apple) PPC-based standard PC form factor board supplier. And  in terms of real sales for real money (which in my view is the ultimate  measure of success anyone can give boards away) we really seem to have no significant competition to date"

FROM= http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=3&rev_id=41&sort_by

http://www.amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2339

"In fact as it stands today it would have been far cheaper for us to have given all current board owners $500 each not to buy a board and walked away from the whole Amiga scene in early 2001."

"Secondly the 'Amiga Enthusiast' market does not generate sufficient profit for us to be able to indulge ourselves (in reality myself - all our former 'Amiga' staff and most of me are off doing proper revenue-earning things unconnected with the Amiga Enthusiast market) in non-essential time consuming activities. Even these 20 answers are being typed on my laptop on holiday!"

If it was such a fail, why did they continue to develop a new model, like I said it was mostly likely the level of claims on hardware problems/issue that got made they most likly thought to just pull the plug before they loss all their profits, sad but most likely true.

They didnt. Eyetech went out of the business when they could not fund development of new board on their own. Eyetech only succeeded by selling rebranded Teron boards to Amiga market. Boards which failed miserably on so called "Linux market".

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But it's so exciting to follow all the improvements in my beloved OS from my childhood when Aos was king even if it's lightyears behind now. Aros and morphos has no roots for me even if i have been using it for many years now (have only tested aros quickly a few times). It sucked from the beginning and it sucks now.

That is going to change when UAE users adopt new AROS/68k.