I think OS4 CAN be run on MAC MINI (USABLE)

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@ferrellsl

I wouldnt mind if there was new, inexpensive and powerful hardware available for MorphOS. If you have ideas I am all ears.

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@itix
I agree.  I bought MorphOS to run on my PegII out of curiosity and because I believed the crap that "others" were spouting on here about how MorphOS would turn your system into a high performance machine.  Well, that was a load of crap and I expected more from an OS that cost me more than $200 USD.

You had a chance to try MorphOS for free before purchasing.

Shame that you didnt like it. It is very good OS.

And until Piru publishes some real sales numbers I'll continue to disbelieve him when he says the move to MacMini was a huge success.

In Amiga scale it is. No new hardware would generate so much sales. It leaves out users who only want new hardware but you can not please everyone. Choose your target and stick on it. But it is good that we have choices, isnt it? AROS, MorphOS and OS4 fill different needs. And of course the good old original AmigaOS 3.1 on emulators and perhaps Minimig.

Before I continue I should mention I am MorphOS developer and biased.

He also tried to get me to believe that MorphOS wasn't a "business" venture.  That's the typical dodge when someone doesn't want to admit that their "business" isn't being successful.  I told him that I'd believe that MorphOS wasn't a business when they decided to stop charging for it.  I'd wager that fewer than 300 copies of MorphOS for the MacMini have been sold.

What is "successful" business in your books? It is successful as in it generates more income than there are expenses. It is not successful as in it would bring Amiga out of niche. Amiga is small and stays small.

Maybe you mean MorphOS as in business would be declining or does so in the future. Well, does it matter? Do you really expect commercial breakthrough? Do you think successful Amiga business exists?

I wouldnt mind if there was new, inexpensive and powerful hardware available for MorphOS. If you have ideas I am all ears.

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The disappointments are in the lack of robust, useful software to run on MOS.  Useful being a decent office suite and a mature browser that supported modern standards.  I bought my PegII and MorphOS nearly 3 years ago and that's an eternity to wait for decent software.

I can certainly accept that statement.

I also paid $700 for the PegII and another $200+ for MorphOS.  I can buy one heck of a modern workhorse computer for that kind of money.  Yes, OWB is out there now and is becoming more mature all the time but I shouldn't have to pay nearly $1000 and wait nearly 3 years to surf the web with my system.  That's just ridiculous.

There indeed is problem with custom hardware: once you buy one you are stuck with it.

As for new, inexpensive and powerful hardware for future Amiga OSs including MorphOS, I've always thought that x86 is the future, like it or not.  ARM isn't an option in my opinion.  It's just another obscure, underpowered dead-end.  I like AROS and think it's the future of Amiga-like OSs.  The x1000 will die a slow death if it ever reaches market.  And the guys from MorphOS like to keep things shrouded in mystery but hint that ARM is likely to be the next CPU running MOS.  I hope not.

Now we are talking. There is no solution for PPC which could fill all three requirements. x86 could be an option but removes backwards compatibility. ARM is only another obscure custom hardware from user POV.

I am not worried if Amiga and/or MorphOS dies. We all die some day.

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I had hoped that the MOS team would actually develop or port some decent apps to MOS, but in 3 years it hasn't happened and I'm certain it'll be the same in 3 more years.

The MorphOS team does only MorphOS. Developers of MorphOS have released new software in these three years, Fab's OWB being perhaps most notable port/development.

There is also (few) new software coming with MorphOS. Sketch (painting program) and RemoteShell (SSH) were added in 2.0. No office suite, tho, but MorphOS is not only bunch of libs and devs.