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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« on: December 28, 2010, 09:58:22 AM »
So isn't the video of Amiga OS4.1 not photorealistic enough ?
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If you want Workbench 3.1/3.5/3.9 to look like that, it is possible.
My OS3.9 has a normal background picture, ok it's an Amiga 4000 Micronick tower with a Cyberstorm 060/PPC 50/200 with 128MB and Cyberstorm Vision PPC card, but yeah, looks realistic enough.
I even got a good AmigaAmp mp3 player and looking at a fantasy landscape background.
The photo is as real as on a PC or Mac.
 
Why are we still stuck in 2D, while everything is 3D and even touchable and in the near future even smellable ?
 
If you want to take Workbench to the extreme, talk to these guys:
http://www.obscuradigital.com/technology/
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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2010, 11:32:46 AM »
Quote from: vidarh;602390
You're not going to get everynone to settle on that, because people have entirely different goals. They can co-exist, but don't expect everyone to move in the same direction. When has Amiga users ever done that anyway?

For me, the Amiga is a game machine, I don't need it to be a supercomputer with touch interface, but I wouldn't mind :)
 
You can't compare your Amiga to a PC or Mac, it's that simpel.
Although some wish it can do as much, you won't get there untill someone actually starts to put in the work.
If there is someone who can do the hardware, it's Jens.
Look at what the ACA is doing to the accelerator market already.
Now only we need someone to do the software.
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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2010, 01:42:37 PM »
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NG systems prove the Amiga can continue to develop and flourish.
 
As NG systems become more advanced, I do expect to see them become competent daily use systems. Will they be competitive with PCs and MACs? Well without the resources of a large backer that would be difficult. But look how good they look now. Its not impossible, it could happen.

There you have it, if someone puts in a hell of lot of time, then this could be a future Amiga fans can build on.
 
If you truly want to take the OS to a new level then it has to become open source first.
If Hyperion still keeps hanging on to it themselves, we are not going to get far.
They have done some work on the Classic verision of 4.1, but with open source it could grow a lot faster.
 
As for hardware, I think we need to let go of the PPC ideas, cause cleary we are not going to get the internal code writing from DCE.
Even if they were to release it, the processor is just too outdated and too slow.
Also Motorola 68K proccesors need to go if you truly want a future.
 
We need to be looking at just modernday processors and write the software to that platform, it shouldn't be that hard considering we allready do it with WinUAE and again on open source, it will get done a lot faster.
 
We can hang on to the idea of other processors running our Amiga software or we can say: If you can't beat them, join them!
The hardware will be the same then, but the software won't.
 
No it won't be able to beat Windows, Mac Os and Linux, but just maybe it could end up in the top 5 of used OS'es.
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Re: ECS, AGA, Workbench? No I don't hate them.
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2010, 01:49:30 PM »
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Why would anyone at this point? Who would spend good money on such a thing?

I won't, I would rather spend good money on someone porting all Amiga software to the x86 platform, lets face it, we are not going to get anywhere if we continue to :smack: on old hardware.
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