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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« on: October 23, 2010, 08:12:14 PM »
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As stated at AmiWest 2010, they still have no interest in x86.
 
I suppose selling a handful outdated slow overpriced computers somehow makes them more money than selling good software that runs on fast commodity hardware.
 
Greed > user experience.
 
Unbelievable.

Well they are never going to make a profit if they keep on going with their ideas and not using everyday hardware.
No profit = bankrupt
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2010, 08:25:20 PM »
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Hyperion so far as I can tell has been a hobby company pretty much since they pushed to get the OS4 development licence.

Same thing, unless someone is funding them, they won't survive if no one buys the machines.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2010, 08:48:27 PM »
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So far, Acube has developed the hardware and they've just supplied the OS, so no loss there. OS development is not an easy job, but it doesn't require a factory anywhere.
 
From the interviews with the guy in charge of Hyperion, it seems that the X1000 is very much a vanity project, that he is hoping to break even on.

Why would someone running a business just hope to break even on a new project ?
With a profit they could go for a new Amiga using x86 and new hardware like USB 3.0, SATA600 and HDMI 1.4 and whatever you can think of.
If you have OS4 going x86, then your done.
But the main problem I think is licenses, patents and all other things.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2010, 10:53:52 AM »
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I don't see why anyone gets so polarized for or against which CPU is inside their computer? All I care about is how it performs and what it costs to purchase, plus how reliable it is and will the company that sells and/or manufacturers it be in business in the future to replace the CPU should it fail while under any kind of warranty, or will there be a stock of parts to replace dead CPU's if I decide to keep running my new computer as long as I have run and plan to continue running some of my original Amiga computers.
 
x86, PPC, or some other, perhaps not yet known CPU, who cares and why, unless you are a developer that is expert at coding for one architecture and not the other using Assembly Language, or some other programming language that has CPU specific commands and/or functions, and if you are, having the OS ported to the opposite architecture than the one you are used to coding for does not mean that you are forced to stop coding for the architecture of your preference, as PPC computers are not going to disappear on the day that AmigaOS4.x, or MorphOS2.x are ported to x86. x86 just provides more choices for users and programmers above what we already have.

Exactly :hammer:
I don't see the point either, and while we are on the base of price, reliability and warranty I rather prefer a good core I7 with everything on it than a 1800-2000 euro costing X1000 with hardware in it that is only able to run OS4/Morph OS and maybe even Linux if you can get it to run on it.
 
At least with a x86 machine I can always put Windows or MacOs or whatever you want on it and make it dual / triple booting.
And with a x86 machine I have more reliability and warranty, Intel covers 3 years on boxed cpu's and mainboards, which I never had to make use of so far and I have been using Intel products for years.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 09:23:29 PM »
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So you like Windows better than Amiga OS 4?

I'd be lying if I said no, Windows 7 64 bit is running like it has never ever crashed.
And the only time it did do a BSOD was with Prime95 running a maximum torture heat test :)
And that's probably due to the stock memory.
Fact is for my everyday work, I rather have Office running and Live Mail, than starting up one of my A4000's and using that.
And at the moment I haven't got OS4 running on 1 of them, I'm waiting for 4.1, I sold an original OS4 cd years ago, stupid, but I needed the money.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2010, 06:58:27 PM »
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No comment.

Humor me :roflmao:
 
Seriously, in everyday work situations you can't use an Amiga for that, I get my route and customer info through PDF and most documents are MS Office Word/Excel 2007.
And I rather use Photoshop than Dpaint.
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Re: Ben Hermans still staunchly against x86
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2010, 06:47:20 PM »
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$600 is a few nice lunches, $2400 is a mortgage payment.
 
I'm much more inclined to blow $600 on something next to useless than $2400.

Ah if you own more than 20 Amiga's you know it gets to large figures.
Some collections exceed 10K/20K
 
But your right, it's sometimes insane, it almost looks as the prices at when the hardware was new and just released.
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