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Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« on: April 10, 2010, 09:22:02 PM »
Asked for recommendation on a general mucking about / retro-amiga that will mostly be used for whdload and dreamings of better days. Mentioned some of the tips previously given to others on this forum. Heres what I got:

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Hello,

Thank you for your email.

If you are looking to use WHDLoad, then an A1200 with 4GB CF hard disk and 68030/16MB accelerator would be perfect for this task.

A useful way of transferring data from PC is with an EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit with 4GB of storage.

Cocolino is great for using PS/2 mice with the Amiga 1200.

You will not need OS 3.9 as this is not needed for WHDLoad.


Friendly and to the point methinks. Seems like Amigakit agrees with Amiga.org too. Guessing I would also need the Intellivision AGA thingy as I would love to put it on my plasma.

Wants to get everything in one go, all set up, but I could not find accelerators there (and someone said it was super expensive anyways). Guess I will trawl amibay/ebay. Btw: If anybody here has one, or has a A1200 to sell with extras or know where to get one, please tell. Note: N00b factor is huge. Live in Norway. Last two facts not necessarily related.
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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2010, 04:57:41 PM »
Quote from: Trev;552822
Your plasma TV will probably do a decent job of upscaling and deinterlacing the A1200's composite output on its own. Try it out before investing in an Indivision (which is awesome, if you need it). Your set may also accept the A1200's RGB output without modification.


Good advice. Thanx.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2010, 09:08:50 PM »
Lots of useful comments and clarifications. Never had a retailer post advice to a customer enquiry before. Cool. And an almost as cool miniwar following, for some sunday night drama :)

Kind of want blizzardy thingy. Anyone got any idea of a good performance, price combo? And did I read somewhere that not all versions fit because of.. space issues and heat? Bet those last ones are overkill and not something for me anyhow.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2010, 11:40:08 PM »
Quote from: meega;553046
Blizzard MkIV does not require any cooling.


So who is correct? Cooling or not cooling? This is not cool :roflmao:

Would something like this need a tower or extra cooling? I really don´t want to towerize to preserve the classic amiga look.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2010, 08:11:12 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;553055
No, that card doesn't require any cooling, it will fit inside the desktop case with no problems. It will also make your Amiga powerful enough to be used for online games like Dynamite, and make it perfect for multimedia presentation software and game creation software like Backbone.
 
An Amiga with a 68030 can do so much more than games, if you do get an accelerator you should look into all the creativity software available, and maybe try and bring it online for more fun.

Sounds fantastic really. Gonna see if I can get it, even though it seemed kinda expensive. But getting the Amiga online with workbench 3.1 seems troublesome (though awesome) from searching the forum. A reason for getting get 3.9?
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2010, 08:21:15 AM »
Quote from: meega;553061
I am, unless you live somewhere really really hot (50-60C air temperature?).
 

 
Yes, that is a 68882 in there too. The RAM is "only" 32MB, there are another 8 chips on the other side. The trapdoor clips home sweetly. Additional cooling is not required.

Northern part of Norway is not famous for it's hot weather. This weekend I went cross country skiing. Ah :) Should be perfect accellerator weather right now.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2010, 01:25:48 PM »
Have hit the motherload it seems. Can get this from the same seller:
 
A1200 White and pretty case, it's like new old stock
Blizzard 1230 IV with 64MB Ram
4GB CF HD
PCMCIA Transfer Kit with 256MB Ram CF Card
Original Commodore A1200 mouse LIKE NEW WHITE
Amiga RGB to SCART cable
2 Joysticks
 
Gonna go for it I guess :) Cheaper than buying from amigakit (who are awesome and helpful btw. they'll probably hear from me later), but most important is that everything is set up and shipped without me destroying anything building it all. Seriously. I have gremlins in my fingers.
 
Could also upgrade the accellerator to the 1260 model. Tempting but It was worth more than everything on the list. Could also get a 1084s, but I don't think I can afford much more right now.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2010, 03:44:37 PM »
Quote from: Kvist;553133
Hi!

I Answer in norwegian, since it probably is a little easier for a beginner =)

Det ser ut som du har truffet blink på det oppsettet du har der, jeg har nogenlunde det samme, jeg har bare 32 mb ram på 1230´n, men det holder i bøtter og spann til Whdload.
Jeg har også Indivision Aga, men det er kun fordi jeg bruker en pc-skjerm som ikke har compositt-inngang. Så du trenger ikke det med første hvis du skal bruke en tv.

Er den Amiga´n du har der norsk? Hvis ikke, selger de nye norske tastatur på Amigakit, så du får Æ,Ø og Å.

Sjekk også ut http://polarboing.com/, super norsk side med C64 og Amiga-Stuff. Kjøpte Blizzarden min derfra, av en hyggelig kar. Mener jeg ga en 1000-lapp komplett med rammen. Dukker opp noen kule ting der fra tid til annen på Kjøp/Salg-forumet. =)

Uansett, lykke til, Bare å spørre hvis du lurer på noe, har noen år på baken med Amiga. Er endel andre norske brukere her inne også, som sitter på mye bra kunnskap.

Mvh

Kvist


Didn´t know my english was that crappy ;)

Men ja :) Har vært innom polarboing tilbake i tid. Glemte vel av stedet da jeg først hørte at amigakit solgte nye-gamle maskiner og alt det der.

Men fint å få bekrefta at oppsettet ser greit ut. Hvordan OS kjører du og hvilke viktige programmer er det man trenger for tiden. Eneste jeg husker fra gamledager er directory opus :) Nå som jeg har fått alt av hardware, må jeg vel tenke på hvordan det blir å bruke maskinen. Gleder meg sykt.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2010, 03:49:06 PM »
Quote from: TheGoose;553140
There are people in this forum who will glue cooling fins to anything and do. You will know them because of the ANTEC neon fan attached to their forehead.

:)


Haha. I think captain Picard was talking to one the other day on tv.
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2010, 09:46:46 AM »
The guy I'm buying the lot for has offered to sell a motorola 50hz coprocessor for the a1230 IV. Necessary? Worth it?
 
As a reminder I'm getting:
 
A1200 White and pretty case
Blizzard 1230 IV with 64MB Ram
4GB CF HD
PCMCIA Transfer Kit with 256MB Ram CF Card
Original Commodore A1200 mouse
Amiga RGB to SCART cable
2 Joysticks
 
Ps. Thanks for all the help. Wonderful forum experience so far here on what is still my first week on amiga.org :afro:
 
PS and not really related: Also added some games to the collection now. Seller seems to have a warehouse of amiga goodies. Looking to get good copies of:
 
Dune II (compl. ENG)
F-19 (compl. english)
Lemmings (compl. ENG)
Monkey Island 2 (compl. English)
Monkey Island KIXX (compl. english)
North & South (compl. ENG)
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2010, 11:17:01 PM »
Quote from: gertsy;553472
If you're playing games the 50(Mhz I assume) coprocessor isn't gonna make much difference. Maybe for "Frontier".
It looks like you're lining up all good stuff.  An 8GB CF HD will give you more space for more WHDLOAD games onboard..(SANDisk Ultra II 8GB)

If you're tossing up lining up with Cammy's advice or Amigakits advice just remember Cammy has a mean roundhouse kick.  (o:

BTW: I think your English is fantastic. Infinity times better than my Norwegian.

Gertsy


Have decided to skip the fpu. Thanx for advice from u and others :)
 

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Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 04:05:37 PM »
Hi all. It took some time, but I finally opened the package that finally arrived today with my A1200 and some games :) Some of the game boxes are crushed, but everything else seems ok. But:

When I connect it to my plasma (Pananasonic PV60), regardless of scart port, the screen just goes grayish white. Kind of looks like the signal comes from the Amiga though, but nothing happens so I don´t really know.

The Amiga came with something that looks like a home made cable that I put into the wide, serial-looking port marked "video" on the amiga. Any thoughts on troubleshooting?

Ps. At the end of the cable, near the scart plug, it also has an additional wire sticking out, ending with two audio plugs of the regular kind. Is there any sound  coming through the video port anyways? Seems weird. Tried to put the cables into the red/white audio input on my tv after switching on the power, but only got a weird sound that got louder and louder, even if I turned off the power from the Amiga.