Workbench Disk Sets... What Would Be The Best Way To Obtain Them...

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@Transition: This is just stupid. The files Clanto distribute is both useless and illegal to use on a real Amiga.

we might just end up deleting this entire thread outright

@SilvrDrgn: Yea that seems sensible, NOT. And since Transition did not cloce the other thread I assume it was you; based on your statement in my quote.

@AO mods generally: Freedom of speech anyone??
Well I guess you use the American variant of the concept: Freedom of speech for everyone that agrees with the powers to be.
And let me pleas remind you that the legal status of AI so called IP-ownership is highly questionable and never tested in court. And that even long before the Amiga Inc Washington to KMOS transfer.

We are expecting more NOS AmigaOS 3.1 Disk Sets  due in the next two weeks if this helps.   These were manufactured by  Amiga Technologies.

@amigakit: Nice to know that 3.1 can be bought but that is just a very temporary solution (that stock will run out; what then?) and only for Amiga owners with KS3.0 and higher. And assuming this is legal disks manufactured by Amiga Technologies; how old would this stock be? About 15yrs or something like that? How much lifetime can we expect form them if we buy them today? I'd had floppies fail after much shorter storage time than that.

@Franko:
Keep up the good work, about time someone did what you seem to be up to. If no-one challenged the ownership of the IP our OS would for sure be stuck in limbo for eternity.

-Edit- On topic, if Franko wants to challenge Amiga Inc's claim to the  AmigaOS IP, then he needs to do it properly, not through piracy but  through the legal system!        

@bloodline: Hmm, as far as i understand the legal system this is not an option at all; What right does Franko have (or anyone of us for that sake) , as a private citizen with no previous legal interest in the IP in question, to challenge the ownership in court? The only option any of us have to get this issue to a court of law, is to force the (self-acclaimed) owners to initiate the legal proceedings one way or another. Do you have any better suggestions on how to do that than what Franko is doing right now?

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@Franko: I totally agree with you, and you have my full support. Were it not for the fact that my servers have a physical location with a internet-link at the courtesy of my former employee I would have done the same earlier, or at-least mirrored your files at this point. I would be happy to be able to face the alleged owners of the Amiga IP in a court-of-law. But I am sorry to admit that I would not risk loosing my free server location and hi-speed internet-link, as I could never afford renting a location for them with even a low-speed link.

@Thread: And if anyone believes that my last two sentences contradict each-other; Being dragged to court wouldn't cost me anything, deference-lawyers are paid by the state in Norway.

Edit: Small correction: In light of the info from amigakit I would have mirrored the 1.3 trough 3.0 as long as their arriving stock of 3.1 last., Then I would have mirrored all. Then there would have been no way any alleged IP-owners could have won a case against me in a Norwegian-court-of-law, even if the court would agree to their claim of ownership; which I very much doubt they would.

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Just wanted to voice my support, as I believe what you are doing is the only right thing to do, and should have been done a long time ago.

Good to hear that you got experience.

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The easiest way it purchase 1.3 and 3.1 is exactly how Transition as alluded to:
Step 1 buy Amiga Forever,
Step 2 buy a Catweasel Mk4 or Mk4+.........
In my opinion if you are a classic amiga user the Catweasel (on a PC) is worth every penny.


Would you really what or need any of these version of amiga OS:  1.0, 1.1, or 1.2 1.4, 2.0, 2.04, or 2.1?.  I can maybe see wanting a version 1.0 or 1.2 roms to boot some old games but probably not the OS

As for 3.5, 3.9, and 3.9withBB2
Unless you are in a special situation, with a 68020 one would probably not want os 3.5
or 3.9
 just OS 3.9with bb2 and is that not still available?

How many times must it be said??!!??!!!!
They do not work on a real Amiga!!! And it is still equally illegal!!!

http://www.amigaforever.com/kb/13-145 :rtfm::rtfm::rtfm:

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A lot of people fail to realize the reason that Cloanto has not posted in these threads since Franko started:
They have no legal option to present; just like Franko they got no license for distributing WB for use on real Amiga hardware, and they probably got no way of obtaining one. And if they posted here they would have to admit so, which would strengthen Frankos case.