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Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« on: July 10, 2010, 09:37:27 AM »
Hi:
Yesterday I received a Subway USB connector from Amigakit. I installed only one of the usb as I don't think I will need another and don't want too much holes in the Amiga.
 
The installations went fast and easy. I haven't seen photos of it installed with the sheilding on, although I've searched. My installations fits like a glove. I don't know if the rest of the people that keeps the sheilding make the same as me.
 
Well, it runs right, reading the USB. The thing is I'm starting to use AmigaAmp to play MP3, as I don't like the others I've tried.
I've noticed I get a message saying I need AHI, at least v.4. I think it's because of the Subway.
I haven't found a version of it, which is the last and where can I get it?
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2010, 10:54:12 AM »
Hi Piru:
Thanks twice. Twice because you solved yesterday a problem I had with AmigaAmp saying it needed Openpci.library (version 1) and as you know you can't find it, but thanks to a post you left I learnt that "In DEVS:AHI there is the emu10kx.audio driver ... which is not used by G-REX1200 , so by deleting this emu10kx.audio driver, there is no more request about openpci.library...".
 
Yes, it's related to the Subway. If I boot the Amiga and open AmigaAmp, I have no problem, no Ahi request and it opens the Mp3 I have in the internal Cd, but if I close it, put a USB pen I have (with a couple of Mp3) the first I have opening AmigaAmp is a message "Can't open ahi.device! Please make sure you've got at least v4 of AHI and that your AHI preferences are correct".
If I then open a project (the Mp3 cd is still inside) I get a message of "No output device available".
 
I'll try with that AHI link, and will have to see which preferences has to have.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2010, 12:33:27 PM »
I will try, Piru (I'm cleaning my home), but I get the message of the AmigaAmp when I open it without touching the USB, I mean, I don't try to open any Mp3 file in the USB, I only click open AmigaAmp and get that message..., but only when the USB Pen drive is inside the Usb input.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2010, 02:26:24 PM »
As I said: I have copied from the pendrive the Mp3 to the harddrive and tried to open AmigaAmp. Yes, it gives the same message, but as I supossed it was I had used the USB port. I taked out the pendrive, did a warm boot and after that I open AmigaAmp and open the MP3 of the hardrive without any message or problem (I see no difference between opening it from the Cd or from the HD).
 
So it's clear it's USB related problem, isn't it?
 
I've downloaded ahisrc 6.0, but I don't see any icon to install it. Ah! It wasn't the one, I've seen another...
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2010, 03:18:55 PM »
It's UMSD:
 
I've tried to install (AHI v6 hasn't install icon, so I copied the contents of the drawers to the ones of my DH0, System drive), but AmigaAmp keeps with the same message when I put the USB stick. I think I will search AHI 4.0 that it's supossed to bring an install icon.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2010, 03:39:14 PM »
No, AHI is installed, as I've installed with the install icon AHI v4. I suposse I must change some preferences, but don't know which :angry:nes...
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2010, 01:31:43 PM »
If I use AmigaAmp without the USB stick and I put the USB stick then while playing a song, after closing it I can open AmigaAmp again without no AHI request and I can play Mp3 from the USB stick.
 
What's happening?
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2010, 03:40:06 PM »
Sorry, perhaps I do not know how to do it (as well as I do not know where is the apostrophe each time I am writting with the Amiga).
 
It appears as FCDF-408A (the name), UMSD, which I think is the volume, isnt it? (please somebody tell me how to use the apostrophe with an english keyboard)
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2010, 09:20:15 AM »
Thanks, ' wasn't so hide (it's only I have some hurry when I'm using an unregistered IBrowse).
 
Quote from: Piru;569879
The only explanation I can think of is that the device somehow is registered as usbaudio.class device and that causes the weird AHI behaviour. Quite bizarre really.

Ok, so nobody knows what to do or try?
 
Nobody has installed a Subway and can try opening AmigaAmp?
 
And the AmigaKIt people, can't you say something about it? &BTW do you like my photos?
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2010, 12:19:29 PM »
Forget it. It's solved. I don't understand this bizarre thing really, but I installed poseidon and trident in another HD CF I have and now it works.
 
The only thing I find could be culprit is the AmigaAmp program. I had it already installed with a direct access through Sys4Aga on the screen, but as I didn't like the skin, I downloaded another version and changed the drawers with the new ones, making the new AmigaAmp being opened using that Sys4Aga direct access.
 
In the other HD I have the old version (or perhaps it's the same with a different skin?) of AmigaAmp and it's the one that works.
 
So I will change again the program in the other HD and if I want to change the skin will use another way.
 
Perhaps it can be other thing, because I've noticed a lot of crashes in the usual HD, but no one with the other. I believe I will change the system information from one to another.
 
EDIT:
Well, I've been too fast to say that. In fact it works with the system copy, but after I installed a couple of things it has started to make the same, this time with the old AmigaAmp program. I have to see one by one which of the adds I make to that System copy makes AmigaAmp make that.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2010, 03:45:00 PM »
I've been wrong thinking the other HD was working. No, it wasn't. The explanation is that I installed the Poseidon program with the USB stick attached, and the AmigaAmp program worked, so I thought all was right. I've tried it again: it has the same request for AHI. As I've said it doesn't makes that request always: it doesn't if I have opened AmigaAmp before I put the stick and didn't when I installed the program with the USB stick on.
 
So, I have no idea what to do.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2010, 12:29:06 PM »
Yes, I agree it can be that.
 
With the Subway I've found two problems; this and the other is the one you have when you try to open Whdload games (not all). To open some of them you have to put Poseidon offline with Trident. I've been told in The Zone there are Usb icons to put it on or off, but yesterday I read this Thread from 2006: http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=23847&page=2
 
I have to try to add those lines to the Whdload prefs. The dude I have is if I must write ; before them, as they are on that drawer. I will try to use it when I have a moment.
 
Wait a moment...Uhmmm... woudn't AmigaAmp work the same way than Whdload if I could use those comands in the AmigaAmp preferences (I don't know if it has preferences or how it could be done)?
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2010, 08:03:24 PM »
Thanks. No, I haven't tried it. I thought that it was only to connect to internet radios, and I thought that with the speed the connection goes... so I haven't tried it, but I will do.
 
Thinking about changing the preferences of AmigaAmp makes no sense to disable the USB so I can play always AmigaAmp because I would loose the chance to play music from the USB stick.
 
What I have to do is or to start 1st AmigaAmp before the USB stick or to try another player like Aminet radio.
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2010, 10:29:23 PM »
Oh, I coudn't start Youtube till now... you're the one of those videos. I've seen a couple of them and I like them very much. But weren't you playing delitracker in another?
 
And a second thing I've discovered right now: in my childhood there was a game I liked to play a lot in the Spectrum 48k although it was very simple. As the game was from a LoadNRun casette, the name wasn't the original of the game. That was years ago. This year I've found versions of it for the PlayStation 2 even, and too for the Snes with the name of Bomberman.
What I didn't know when I bought my Amiga which came with the Dynamite Pack (still haven't tried it after 3 months) is that that was the game!
 
And looking it well... I thought your Avatar was a draw, but for the video... is it a real photo? Of whom if I can ask you?
 
EDIT: Well, I've seen your photo gallery and now I have the answer...
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Re: Subway USB and AmigaAMP
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2010, 10:55:24 AM »
Hi:
I've noticed the problem isn't only with AmigaAmp. I've tried Aminet Radio, Hippo Player and Eagle Player (I think I coudn't before because I didn't have guigfx.library, at least for Aminet Radio). The message I get with all of them is "COULD NOT ALLOCATE AUDIO CHANNELS" (yes, Aminet Radio worked right before that). I'm sure it's because what @PanterHZ said and something -AHI or all the players- search for a Sound Card, but only when the USB stick is attached and it must confuse it with a sound card and doesn't find the audio channels.
 
The only solution I found would be to find a way in which the USB was diferenciated, but why there's no problem if I open the player before?
 
So it has to be the same for all the people that has a Subway USB controller and insert the USB stick before opening any player.
I talked with Lauri and asked to try the same with his Amiga (he's got Subway too) and Amiga Amp and he got the same problem.
 
Is it possible NOBODY has tried before me to put an usb stick and open any player? I've searched and searched and have found nobody talking about it.
 
Please, SOMEONE WHO HAS A SUBWAY (there must be at least a couple): what player do you use and can you use it if you put a USB stick before opening the player?
 
Thanks in advance
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