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HxC Floppy Emulator
« on: June 16, 2010, 09:03:35 PM »
I've seen this at Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180516490246
 
They will be available on 26.06.2010
 
Will they be usefull?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2010, 10:18:18 PM »
It says "LCD and buttons can be put on an external front panel"
 
If so, I think they should have done it so the LCD screen could be towards the right of the Amiga, in the place of the floppy into something similar to a floppy box, and the SD card beside...
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2010, 10:27:02 PM »
They say LCD and buttons can be put on an external front panel, so they should have done it so the card could fit into the floppy hole and the LCD screen, buttons and SD card could be in a panel outside where the floppy goes, covering the hole of it.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2010, 11:29:59 AM »
Can somebody tell me if it's possible to connect it internally as second floppy, and the most important, how?
 
I would like to know the measurements it has, please.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2010, 11:51:15 AM »
A1200. Could it be something like a ribbon cable that could connect both at the same time and configuring one of the floppys as primary and the other secundary if that's possible? Sorry, I'm almost new opening PC's and so...
 
Or perhaps with the 4 device buffered interface?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2010, 02:04:08 PM »
I want to make a clear enclosure like this:

 
And I need to know the measurements the A1200 card has. Are they 100x65mm?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2010, 11:48:52 AM »
I would like to know if there's somekind of switch to change between Df0 and Df1 that could be done in an A1200, and a guide to do it if that's possible.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2010, 12:16:51 PM »
I would like to keep the Chinon one inside and adding it outside. I've heard about making a switch to change between Df0 for one or another... and in the A1200 I don't have place to put another floppy output (I'm using the trapdoor under the floppy for USB and an Indivision Aga connector whenever I get one).
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2010, 09:14:10 PM »
There's one thing that I like in the HxC project (that others will hate), appart of the use it gives, that is the hackering you have to do to install it. I love that part. Well, I've been thinking how to put it, inside or outside the A1200.
 
I was thinking to make it outside, like the photo of the clear enclosure, I've bought the perspex even. What I was going to do, that the one that did it didn't get to do is to put the buttons and close the box. He wanted to put the screen at the front and the buttons too. My idea if someone wants to do it is very simple: you close the box making a slot at the front side to introduce the Sd card, you leave the screen where it is, which is the best place to see it, and you only have to make three 3mm drills on the upper side of the box, above where the buttons are. Then you can cut three 3mm acrylic clear rods that you pass through the holes, with a drop of loctite over the buttons and you can use that rods as buttons from outside of the box.
 
I think that's a good idea, and didn't want to comment till I had it finished, but thinking well the best way will be to make it internally... Why?
I was thinking why the guy that did that beautiful external HxC floppy in the clear enclosure sold it, and what I believe is that if you find difficult to make the switch to change Df0 from a floppy to the other (I do), and if you want to keep the Chinon one inside working, you will have for example only a couple of games that will play from Df1, that has to be very frustrating.
 
So, what I'm planning to do now is to put it internally, with the same ribbon cable of the floppy with two connectors for both floppys. I have some ideas of how to do it too, that will post when I'll make it.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2010, 10:10:12 AM »
Pin headers... no, for what I've seen it has Mitsumi 4 pin buttons (recently I had to change one of the tank style mouse, that's why I know them now), but yes, you can solder a cable on the hole where they plug into, or solder pins and put them wherever you want, but would be too much cables, and with an acrylic or perspex clear rod you don't need to change the position, and it would look beautiful.
 
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2010, 10:41:39 PM »
But for the external clear enclosure you don't need to move anything as I said, and it would mean always more cables that you see on it. In a metallic box or inside the Amiga you can put as much cables as you want, as you don't see them, and yes, it's prepared to solder a header leaving the buttons where they are and put others outside.
 
I've seen this in an abime thread:
"The bad thing with this adapter (as it comes) is that it doesn't have a header for mounting the LCD Display + Buttons externaly. (In my case since I'm gonna install it inside A600 - in Floppy drive's position - I wanted the LCD+buttons somewhere else).
Of course the header place exists along with the signals so I just soldered the header myself.
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EDIT:
I'm still not sure if making it externally or internally. I have to think in the benefits on having the screen (externally) or not (I won't make that hole on the Amiga), and I won't be booting games from Df0, as I use Whdload.
 
I have a dude. Do I need to use the buttons if I put the HxC internally?
Will I need at least the eject button?
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2010, 12:07:02 PM »
Hi:
On saturday I received my HxC and I've made my own style clear enclosure. It's made to size and I changed the buttons it had and the ribbon cable connector and I put an angled one to avoid having to put more cables inside. For the buttons, as I said I've made 3 longs rods, and for the Sd an slot.
 
So it's closed, not as the one of fitzsteve. Do you like it?
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5026/abcd0020uk.jpg
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2010, 02:14:13 PM »
Quote from: BooBoo1200;598422
Will this definitely work on an A1200? You can have your internal Drive as DF0: and the HxC as DF0? - If it does this would make life a lot easyer
 
Having the HxC as DF1 is pointless
 
There is some info on EAB about building a switch so you can connect the HxC to the external port and switch between DF0 & DF1
 
& Nice Case Retrofan and nice to see the updates Jeff :)

I have just talk to Fitzteve and he has told me "...The irony is that now the ACA630 is comming out with a simple jumper switch to make external FDD (or the HxC) DF0 it would have done what I wanted and maybe I wouldn't have sold it "
I have to see if that's possible in the ACA 1230...
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2010, 03:10:27 PM »
Quote from: Jeff_HxC;595226
If you intend to use the file image selector software you just need the "next" button.
Connect this one on the front panel connector. (without removing the on-board buttons ;-) )
Hi:
Where the file image selector software is? I haven't seen it.
 
Oh, forget it, I've found it. I will install it. Thanks.
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Re: HxC Floppy Emulator
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2010, 04:21:09 PM »
Quote from: stachu100;598424
Really nice job, congratulation!
I'm planning to use transprent plexi in my next project too. :)

Then I tell you: you can use 3mm perspex one, but I woudn't do again at the rear part, as the cable is thick it will make preasure on it while moving, so you should use 4mm one, and you'll have to cut the plastic rubber of the cable where it plugs so it will let you introduce it, and you don't need to change the buttons. I've thought you can use the ones it has and use an small clear tube (or heat shink tube if you find black rods) to join them to the rods :)
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