samba on an amiga

[kolla]

Yeah, I can cross mount all my machines here with it... ram disks, partitions etc

Don't tell anyone, but back in the days, before NAT routers took over completely, it happened that I found remote Amiga systems of users on IRC that had netfs running and would allow sinister people like me to mount their RAM:, so I could mess with their ENV:sys/palette.prefs etc and see them complain on IRC about how their Amiga was behaving strangely. Good old times

Btw - the "true" SMB (aka NetBIOS over TCP/IP) equivalent for Amiga would be Envoy.

[kolla]

I'm sorry. Every time I see the title of this thread on the front page I just picture this.

Hahaha :laughing:

On a serious note - NetFS was just released with a new version http://aminet.net/package/comm/net/NetFS-revised - I wonder how portable the netfs-server code is, would be great to have NetFS shares on Linux/BSD (and even Windows).

[kolla]

Yea... sure would... but how are you going to store files on disks under windows ore linux, AND maintain amiga proprietary file formats under such conditions?
If you have a reasonable solution for that, please let me know. I really wonder.....

Why not use the same method as UAE (I presume WinUAE and FS-UAE alike, thought I only have experience with the latter) - a metafile amigafile.uaem that contains the Amiga specific filesystem flags. Or what do you mean by "proprietary file formats" in this context?

[kolla]

I ran my first UAE setup by only using folders on the host for file storing. thereby overcoming the making of hardfiles.
However... after a while files started to go missing. icons did not work...
plus plus....
posted about it here in 2006 and was immediately encouraged to make hardfiles to maintain file integrity and formating under amiga.

What is meant with file formating.... you have to ask someone who know that better than me.

I am guessing it has to do with read/write, hidden and such "flags"....

Yeah, all those are long time solved problems. Oh, and there is no "hidden" flag, that's not what that H flag is for

[kolla]

Noone ever said using Windows as fileserver for anything else than Windows was a good idea A NetFS server for Windows will have the same issues as you have when using SMBFS to mount shares from on a Windows server, it could actually work better, as it would only expect Amiga clients, and hence can compensate using meta files, like FS-UAE does.

[kolla]

Not sure what this means....
What filesystem will contain the actual amiga files regardless of network protocols in use?

All of them, there's nothing magic about files on Amiga. The problem is meta data, information about the files, the filesystem flags, not the files themselves. A networking filesystem is a network protocol, it's up to the client and server of the protocol to decide what filesystem flags it will present to Amiga DOS. In case the server does not have any understanding of Amiga filesystem flags, the client must translate those to flags that are native to the server, or simply use dedicated meta files on the server for that purpose. Like FS-UAE does with .uaem-files, this has its clear advantages, as it also simplifies rights management/security on the server.

[kolla]

For a list of what limitations you face when using Windows as a file server...
https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa365247.aspx

Do not use the following reserved names for the name of a file:
CON, PRN, AUX, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8, COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9. Also avoid these names followed immediately by an extension; for example, NUL.txt is not recommended. For more information, see Namespaces.

So, if Amiga (or Mac, or anything else) wants to write a file "AUX" (as for example "DEVS/DOSDrivers/AUX"), that is a problem. The easy solution that I use, is simply to not have Windows file servers

[kolla]

Yes, of course MorphOS makes that easy. Personally I would enjoy NetFS support on my qnap NAS, and also on the various Raspberry pies I build into my Amiga systems.

[kolla]

I am running a Synology NAS.  I wonder how much work it would be to provide NetFS support on that system?

First a portable open source NetFS server implementation would be needed. Not something that appears to be in the horisont