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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #44 from previous page: January 09, 2017, 07:32:41 AM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819361
Completely irrelevent to the Amiga. If you want to write Rexx for the Amiga, I have to point out, it's been done.


Yes, several Rexx interpreters have been written for, and ported to Amiga.

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If you just want to hold up Rexx as an example of something completely and utterly Open Source


I never did - I just point out that.. sigh... Rexx is a language, today defined by an ANSI standard, for which anyone can write an interpreter, commercially closed source, or open source - it does not matter - and sell, or give away or whatever. And IBM would not care one bit. Would IBM care if someone stole sources for a closed source interpreter they have? Sure. But that was never the issue here.

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That doesn't mean Arexx is open source though.


And I never said it is, as I have mentioned so many times now, there are many Rexx interpreters, both commercial closed source and open source ones. ARexx clearly is a property of Willam S. Hawes, and not licensed to Commodore by IBM.
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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #45 on: January 15, 2017, 12:28:18 PM »
Quote from: TheMagicM;819658
Folks...

One thing to remember, we are all getting old.


This is something that is much too often forgotten.

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Please make sure you pass on your Amiga beliefs to your kids.  We need these battles to rage on after we are all gone.  LOL.  If your kids dont have an AO account, please have them register. hahahahha


Working on it ;)
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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #46 on: January 16, 2017, 02:21:29 AM »
Yes, the current copyright scheme is hilarious, and very little about what copyrights were originally about. First of all, originally you had to be a person to hold copyrights, companies were not in position to do so. And copyrights were originally for a _much_ shorter time. The draconian system currently in place is there very much because of Walt Disney, who had no second thoughts about taking public domain fairy tales and turn them into Disney property, or even screwing people over regarding copyrights (from the top of my head, Milne over Winnie-the-Pooh and Barrie over Peter Pan.) It is still possible AFAIK within the Berne convention and treaty of Rome, possible to not recognise companies as legal entities who can have copyrights. I know this was the case for Russia for a long while after USSR broke up.
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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #47 on: January 16, 2017, 09:49:01 AM »
Quote from: OlafS3;819819
That would mean that Aros Rom Replacements are the only legal safe way to use?


It is not at all legally safe for anyone who worked on any original AmigaOS to work with AROS.
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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2017, 02:20:31 PM »
Quote from: Pat the Cat;819843

A right cannot be forfeited. A privalege can be forfeited, but NEVER a right. They are non-removable. 1689, Bill of Rights. This goes back to even before America was born.


The Bill of Rights was and is not universal, not even in England.
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Offline kolla

Re: Consequences of the AmigaOS 3.1 source code "leak", one year after?
« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2017, 03:16:51 PM »
How is development of CLI for AROS and MorphOS coordinated with what Thomas here is doing with OS3.x shell?

My guess - not at all :)
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