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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« on: February 18, 2011, 04:11:50 PM »
Interesting...

From the interview:
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We then assigned a licence to Andreas Loong of Guru Meditation in late 2004. This was a licence to further develop the product with a three year time limit on producing a new version. While GM invested in work on the project it never came to fruition so the licence reverted back to us.


So how then, could Guru Meditation allow the inclusion of DOpus in AmiKit? Does Andreas Loong still think he owns it?
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2011, 04:25:06 PM »
Quote from: brownb2;616385
What are those things I can't think of a single one?


How do you sync any given number of folders using OSX or Windows, or even Ubuntu, from the desktop? How do you make "magic" hotkeys on those systems so that if you press a given key while copying images, those images are also converted, scaled or whatever you like in the same process? How do you build a player application with queue list on those systems? How do you group icons of different types and functions on the desktop of them? There is just so many things you can do with Directory Opus Magellan and ARexx that is not only impossible with OSX/Windows/Any given *ix desktop, they are concepts that noone have even thought of on those platforms.

Directory Opus Magellan is the one Desktop this is _not_ for "most users", it would just be a dream come true to see it become open source so we finally at least can get the most obvious flaws worked on (support for large devices/filesystems, true colour support) and have much better integration in for example MorphOS, perhaps even have AROS port - that would be excellent!
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2011, 04:27:13 PM »
Quote from: number6;616415
Jan probably should update his text. Since the link to GuruMeditation is dead, it's more likely this is just a matter of housekeeping needed on Amikit's part.


Dead?
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2011, 04:29:22 PM »
Quote from: Andre.Siegel;616351
There appear to be several interested parties.


Really? Who? Some certain MorphOS developers? I hope not.
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2011, 04:38:37 PM »
Quote from: number6;616418
Unless my browser is broken, yes.

http://amikit.amiga.sk/andreas-note.htm

^^the link to GuruMeditation.


Ah, works fine here - it's just a more or less empty page though.
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2011, 04:50:17 PM »
Or maybe I cannot fathom that it's already that many years ago that AmiKit added Magellan. :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2011, 05:19:37 PM »
Quote from: sledge;616425
Me too.. DOpus 4 is still the best you can get, really!


For the feeble minded perhaps :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2011, 05:42:12 PM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;616428
Not to be a stinker, but isn't all of what you mentioned about magellan and amiga possible with dopus9 and windows?


Nope, different audience, different focus.
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2011, 09:13:48 PM »
Quote from: brownb2;616443
Windows and Ubuntu have built in viewers for that, if not there are plenty of drag n drop (onto icons or windows) apps to do it.

Nope, not the same thing - you didn't get the point.

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Unless I misunderstand here nearly all media players do this.
But I'm not talking about a media player, I'm talking about building your own playlist manager for whatever program or reasons you might need it for. You can for example dump URLs into a lister to have them queued up for playback on remote mediacenter box. You can create mail browser or news reader with the DOpus listers... the possibilities are endless. And you can assign just about any hotkey you like.

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Windows - click order by file type. Ubuntu has a number of different options depending on the desktop.

You mean Gnome, not Ubuntu. Trust me, I use Windows7, OSX, KDE3, Gnome, KDE4, XFCE4, E17 and lot of other desktops for all they're worth, and they dont really have the concepts that Magellan offer. You don't get it, and that's all fine, move along.

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The point being all of this stuff can be done on Windows/Ubuntu.
No - they certainly cannot be done on Windows/Ubuntu - as a Linux users since 1994 - why would I otherwise care?

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My argument was with the point that this stuff couldn't be done on other OS' or done better.


Sure, perhaps if you master zsh half as well we I do. :laughing:
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 10:22:09 AM »
@brownb2
So you're saying we should use Gnome, KDE or whatever instead of bothering with what is the topic of this thread - why don't you just take a hike already.
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 06:47:51 PM »
Quote from: brownb2;616572
What I objected to and have stated in a few of the posts is the belief that other OS don't do what Workbench + Magellan is capable of.


This thread is not about Workbench, it's about DOpus Magellan and that only. And indeed, it is the case that no other OS or desktop environment offers what DOpus Magellan does - why is this so hard to grasp?
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2011, 01:15:15 PM »
What information?
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2011, 08:36:01 PM »
So what was the price?
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Offline kolla

Re: Free Magellan!
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2011, 10:21:30 PM »
So, you saying they might just be uptight assholes and not greedy? :)
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