PS3 security is "epic fail"

[kolla]

I really don't grasp the Sony defenders here. The point is that Sony wasted alot of money and effort to secure the PS3, but failed miserably, the security system turns out to be mostly smoke and mirrors, security through obscurity. So who's fault is that? None other than Sony's - THEY fcuked it up.

You cannot prevent people from hacking hardware, that's just nonsense, people will do whatever they like with the hardware out there, and if you as a company cannot cope with that, well boo hoo.

[kolla]

It simple, distributing the software key is an unauthorized use of Sony IP.

No need to distribute any keys - try again.

[kolla]

Sheesh, what's wrong with you people - piracy is totally irrelevant here.
Are you guys suggesting that people should stop tinkering with devices because it may make piracy possible? That's just doesn't make any sense at all. The point is that Sony messed up and now have to face the consequences, which is that their oh so protected plattform is now unwrapped and open, and this is not because someone did anything illegal, but because of their own incompetence. That's all, really.

[kolla]

No. as I have said there are loads of companies and devices out their that want people to make interesting hack for them.

So you are suggesting that people should stop tinkering with devices if the manufactorer disapproves. Right?

And what consequence are you referring to if not losing sales to piracy because of these hacks.

The opening of the PS3 hardware might have many consequences that collides with Sony's business idea for the PS3. Such as third party operating systems, improved media center functionality (at last), games being developed outside Sony's ecosphere etc. just like we've seen on the other consoles that have been opened.

I think forcing a closed IP system open is illegal.

A totally irrelevant comment, noone is forcing anything and the "closed" IP system only appeared to be closed. On closer inspection it was not closed at all, perhaps it was intended to be closed, but in the end it was wide open.

I still think its all still bs that they want to just be able to explore what's possible with Ps3 hardware, that fine, get a fat ps3 restore to original firmware and have fun in the OtherOS area, why do you need to have access to the latest firmware or PSNetwork?

Why not? That's what one pay for, right? Now you can decide for yourself what needs you have and run whatever firmware you like, it is how it should have been from the start from a customers POV.

Plus I only just remember that PS3 has full flash support meaning you can play flash games via their browser, hardly a completely closed system.

We have already established that is a completely open system by now.

I really don't understand your agenda in this discussion.

[kolla]

Piracy won't affect Sony at first, it'll affect publishers and then they'll pass that onto developers who will lose revenue and make people redundant like me.

So? Why should I feel more sorry for you than other people who lose revenue and become redundant, people who do far more important work and lose their jobs because of far more silly reasons than yours? You almost make Sony sound like some sort of charity organization, which I'm sure it's not.

[kolla]

@actung_bab
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And you're an Amiga user?

[kolla]

gezz how many people here posting actually own a ps3 you have to update the software to log on to psn network always been that way, as for the other comment am l a aimga person yes l am . and just brought my second ps3 orginal 60 gb model so l got 2  ps3 s hehe

I had a PS3, but gave it away. The only game I got for it was orange box to play portal, the rest of the time I used it for Linux. Never bothered with PSN. With PS3 security now shattered, I'm considering picking up a slim to play with Linux on it again. I also have two Wii consoles for which I have bought lots of games, but both of them also have homebrew and also run Linux. I have two old XBOX machines with modchip and XBMC, and for them I have quite a few games that I bought. I also have a Gamecube that I bought solely for hacking, it has modchip, custom cabinet to allow regular sized DVDs and used Gecko to bootstrap Linux. I also run Linux on three Amigas and an old m68k Mac Quadra 910, my G4 minimac, G4 iBook, 4 NSLUs, WL500gx, WLHDD, Zaurus SL5500, eeePc 901, a handfull of PCs and emulated systems (aranym, qemu).

Are you saying I should give up my hobby of hacking linux on whatever device I want, just so you can have peace in mind?