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Offline kolla

Re: Zune Enhancement Bounty opened!
« on: September 17, 2010, 12:43:49 PM »
What's so modern and attractive about MUI?
Whatever happened to the old "MUI sucks!" mantra of late 90ies? :)
How does this bounty help MorphOS too?

I, for one, do not see the point for Zune to chase MUI4, and as I see it there is only one single reason why this issue came up in the first place, and that's OWB. It would be much better to start a new toolkit from scratch, "done right" as they say, and let MUI (and MorphOS OWB) sail its own seas.

Besides, I paid for MUI twice already back in the days :)
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
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Offline kolla

Re: Zune Enhancement Bounty opened!
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2010, 02:38:54 PM »
Quote from: cicero790;579878
Can you make such a toolkit? Well, my guess to that one is yes.

My guess would be no. :)

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What would the implications and benefits be if this road was taken from a broader perspective?

Exactly, that's what I ask myself as well. I see plenty of unknown implications and not many benefits, really.

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Wouldn't this mean that sharing among the three will be harder?

With MUI4 the problem is that they do not want to share, so why insist?

Imagine if there was someone like Fab on the OS4 side, and that we had a fantastic OWB implementation done with ReAction GUI - would be then be having a bounty for having ReAction reimplemented for AROS and MorphOS?

I still like AWeb alot, and think it would be very cool with AWeb for AROS, AWeb is opensource but relies on ClassACT/ReAction that is currently in the hands of Hyperion - perhaps I should set up a bounty for a bounty for a  ClassACT/ReAction clone... let's call it "CounterACT" or something.
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: Zune Enhancement Bounty opened!
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2010, 05:29:30 PM »
Quote from: Cammy;579880
Trolling was to be expected

Q.e.D.

(if I make the above "e" uppercase, everything in this entry is made lowercase - weird)
« Last Edit: September 17, 2010, 05:59:44 PM by kolla »
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: Zune Enhancement Bounty opened!
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2010, 05:56:25 PM »
Quote from: SamuraiCrow;579891
I'm in favor of the SuperZune.
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If I were going to support only one GUI for the Amiga-like OSs it would be AROS' Zune because it has been backported to OS 3 via AfaOS.


And I'm all for that, but this bounty is not really about Zune - it's a bounty for MorphOS OWB with Zune.

Is OWB really a proper acid test for MUI4 compatibility?

Is there perhaps a dedicated acid test application for MUI4 compatibility somewhere?

What happens when MorphOS moves MUI4 further and Fab starts using new MUI4 features that have not been implemented in Zune?

But my bottom line question is, why let MorphOS dictate the future development of AROS? If Zune is supposed to be _the_ toolkit for AROS, it just doesn't make sense to let it be dictaded by the whims of MorphOS developers.
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A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS