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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« on: March 14, 2010, 08:17:15 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;547564
So not really is the answer although if you wrote OS4 for the PS3 it would give high end PCs running any OS a good run for their money I suspect
Nope. As I have written many many times now, my 1.33Gz G4 iBook (yes, the very same G4 that is described as old pensioner in this thread) runs in circles around the PS3, both running the same OS (linux) and doing the same tasks.
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2010, 10:09:40 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;547672
Pfft that machine would not be able to even display 1% of the visual output that the PS3 produces when playing Killzone 2 sorry.
And what does that have to do with running OS4 on a PS3? Nothing.

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As an OS engine the CELL is not ideal but as a package the PS3 is seriously powerful, just to display one gorgeous frame requires 8 overlaid renders to be combined in realtime @ 60FPS.
Well, that's not just due to the CPU, and as you know, Sony does not allow anyone else to fully play with the rest of the hardware. Making good use of the SPUs is not easily done either.
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 03:46:53 PM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;547823
Your G3 is just a box that runs applications, if you just want a general purpose machine even a P3 1.2ghz is enough. The point was the Amiga 1000 was light years ahead of the competition in every way including fast moving arcade quality graphics. Ditto for PS3/360 and therefore a new 'Amiga' would have to be a computer that for $100 more could replicate those quality graphics AND be superior at general computing tasks like rendering 3D graphics or transcoding Blurays to MKV etc etc.

To get similar graphics in a PC (or Mac) requires a $200 graphics card alone...now you see the point about your G3 being irrelevant to the discussion?

I have no idea what you're talking about.
The only G3 I have is the Pegasos1.

Also it is rather annoying that people keep changing the "the point" all the time.
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 02:03:05 AM »
@dreamcast270mhz
What's your point here?
You can't run 32bit games natively on 64bit OS on PowerPC either "just like that", if that's what you think.
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2010, 07:03:56 PM »
I want to read more about DHCP-protected contents, please :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2010, 09:43:34 PM »
For me, the iPhone is primarily a money-making machine for Apple.
As a product I don't grasp it, I use one every now and then, but I just don't see what's so great about it. Just a few days ago I get frustrated as I could not change equalizer settings ad-hoc while listening to youtube or "ipod" - due to lack of multitasking I could not go to the sound prefs where equalizer settings are, without the ipod/browser apps exiting - also there are no manual settings, just a long list of predefined settings with more or less meaningless names - ridiculous. The mail reader is just rubbish compared to what I'm used to on phone, and third party IbisMail wasn't that much better. The input method of typing with finger on a virtual keyboard is just too slow and clumsy, every time I use it I long back to stylus on SE phones, where I can type without even looking at the device. And how do I change to a different charset anyways? And the list of other obvious shortcomings is long and well known.
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2010, 09:58:57 PM »
Quote from: koaftder;548592
... read stupid crap on the internet when I'm laying in bed.

Reminds me, can one turn off the automated screen rotation? Without jailbreaking it, that is?
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 10:16:40 PM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;548556
Really it's just more evidence that anti-apple zelots don't really know anything about them in the slightest.

I would be one of them, and I bet I have more apple products than you :)
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 11:27:48 PM »
Quote from: Hell Labs;548608
Oh yeah, Did you know that NTs design was based on VMS as well as OS/2?
Naturally, since many of the same people were involved.
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And they stole the TCP/IP stack from BSD.

How do one steal from BSD? :hammer:
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Offline kolla

Re: Will there every be another computer like the amiga?
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2010, 09:38:30 AM »
Quote from: pkivolowitz;548676
Crazy idea - what if the "next Amiga" was a web browser? A web browser that emulated the Amiga and used the Internet as its disk drive? Think of ADPro (for instance) as a place on the Internet. Navigate to it on your Workbench would be navigating to it over the Internet behind the scenes. It would download to the browser and run in its sandbox like it was running on a real Amiga.

You almost describe REBOL there, you known. :)
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