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Offline kolla

Re: PPC emulation in WinUAE - could this help?
« on: January 20, 2010, 04:40:43 AM »
Why on earth add PPC to WinUAE for running OS4 when there's nothing in OS4 that depends on amiga hardware? I dont grasp this wish for PPC emulation in UAE at all. Instead you should just add the needed bits to let QEmu emulate an AmigaOne or whatever. The only version of OS4 that runs on PowerUp boards is a very raw and unsupported OS4.0. And yes, I do find proper emulation of RTC incredibly more usefull than PPC emulation.
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Offline kolla

Re: PPC emulation in WinUAE - could this help?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2010, 05:12:12 AM »
Quote from: persia;539273
We all just want to run OS4 on a PC so that we can have the "Meh" experience it brings.  Wouldn't PearPC be a good starting point for that?


Sure, if you prefer to start with a dead project with no active development instead of something that is actively developed, like qemu. A certaint MorphOS developer tweaked qemu to simulate a pegasos enough to launch MorphOS at some point, it is not magic but does require some work, and access to the real hardware does ofcourse help.
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
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A600/Apollo630/32MB
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A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: PPC emulation in WinUAE - could this help?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2010, 05:19:46 AM »
Quote from: Gulliver;539278
DREAM MODE ON
Not only OS4, but there are also nice OS 3.x WarpOS apps and games (Wipeout 2097, an a DVD videoplayer i cant remember, and a couple of cool emulators).


My mind boggles... why do you want to run Wipeout 2097 in an emulator when you can simply run the windows version of that game?! I cant think of any game for Amiga/PPC that wasnt a port anyways. And running emulators inside an emulator instead of directly ... what a waste!

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Of course the possibility of running OS4 is not a bad idea, so that we can finally get rid of the dongle it requires to work (SAM).


You still need the dongle to run OS4.1, only OS4.0 runs on PowerUp, and  IIRC you cannot even run OS4.0 on SAM in the first place.

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MorphOS could also be supported.
DREAM MODE OFF
;)


Yeah, old MorphOS 1.4 was so great, we much rather want that than running current MorphOS on Qemu - definetly! :rolleyes:
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: PPC emulation in WinUAE - could this help?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2010, 07:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Gulliver;539284
Why?
Just for the fun of it!

I very much doubt that adding PowerUp emulation can be sorted under "fun".
We talk here about rather obscure pieces of hardware that AFAIK aren't very well documented, and with heaploads of corner case issues.

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As you clearly said there are lots of Windows/Linux/Mac tools and games 1000% percent better than Amiga, so if you are into Amiga emulation, it is just for enjoyment, nostalgia or something along the lines


And where does PowerUp fit in here? I bought a CSPPC in 1997 for way too much money, and a CVPPC quite soon after, yes there were a few games and apps, but I dont think any of them justifies the work. My PPC was quite clearly mostly used to accelerate media decoding, on UAE this is not a problem anyhow.

If you really think it makes sense, then go ahead and do it yourself. :)
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A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS
 

Offline kolla

Re: PPC emulation in WinUAE - could this help?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2010, 07:51:51 PM »
Quote from: Crom00;539418
A good reason is that I can walk into Microcenter here in the sates. Walk out with a $950 Quad Core Intel PC...

and with that same $950 + AmigaOs$4 and WINUAEPPC I support OS4 but purchasing OS4 and running it on acutal hardware instead of a SAM, or CVPPC card. Funny thing it'll probably run faster than the sam!


"WINUAEPPC" would _only_ be able to run OS 4.0 and not 4.1+, and SAM440 does only run OS4.1+ and _not_ 4.0, so your statement is wrong regardless, as these systems run two different OSes. AFAIK.
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A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS