Apple stole idea for iPhone from Amiga DE?

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Does anyone still use the videochat function? I have never seen a real person use it here in Sweden, and all the new phones that are coming out is lacking the videochat camera.

I've used it once. I had just bought the SE P1i and a friend of mine had bought a Nokia thing, we were sitting in a pub, drinking beer and comparing phones, suddenly we realized both supported videocalls. So, we tried it while sitting there, and that was the only time I ever used it.

Also, over here most iPhone buyers gets unlimited data usage..

Only iPhone buyers? What stupid discrimination is that?

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Built-in iPod, GPS, Web browser with high quality graphics, 3D gaming... Remember this is in 2001, 8 years ago, when mobile phones were lowly little text-based devices with blocky monochrome screens.

You memory is flawed, many phones had colour displays already. In 2002 Sony Ericsson came with P800, which more or less has all the stuff you mention.

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Credit where it's due here, guys:  Amiga, Incorporated did come out with what amounts to the iPhone's app store-in 2001.

How many "app stores" do you think there have been up throught the years? Really, all this was done _long_ before Apple did it, and it wasnt a new spectacular idea at the time Amiga talked about it either, it had been around for quite some time already by then.

Appearantly the crowd of blind amiga followers and blind apple followers has a certain overlap. :laughing:

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Did'nt answer the question. Have you used it DE?

I have, got the devkit and all.

Do you have any supported hardware (windows mobile phone or others).

"others"?

If you haven't then you can't make a valid comment on it.

But I can, right?

The DE player's probably outsold OS 3.9 and 4.

What do you base that probability on? Personally I dont know of anyone who bought anything based on AE. Apart from the old developer kit.

We also already know (from Hyperion) that Amiga Inc had them port OS 4 to some phones/PDa's.

We do? Sounds very unlikely since powerpc based phones/PDAs are very rare, or even non-existing.

This plus something DE like might attract new users.

New users of what? AE? Something with a boingball?

At least Apple had sense and went for users with deep pockets.

Or rather, they made products that at least had some quality.

Commodore went low end (... for quick $$) now we're stuck with users that just complain.

I dont see the relevance, and who's complaining?