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Offline kolla

Re: Elbox's Spider II and Amithlon - caveat
« on: May 02, 2003, 05:55:16 PM »
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amigabill wrote:
Is the Spider really required to get USB for Amithlon anyway? I thought Amithlon tapped into the linux drivers to run hardware, as it allows use of Nvidia gfx cards for example and other things which have no native AmigaOS or native Amithlon drivers. Why not just use a Linux-native supported cheapo USB/USB2 card with the Linux drivers, or doesn't that work yet? I was under the impression that Amithlon made special Amiga drivers for a particular USB/gfx/sound/etc. card irelevant...


No, that would be Umilator.

Amithlon as it is, relies on the slow stream of mostly useless drivers coming from the hands of Harald Frank and friends. Useless to me at least, as my only main feature of Amithlon is that it runs on laptops, and I do not see Harald Frank providing drivers for neither ethernet, pcmcia, sound or anything that you typically find on a laptop. With Umilator however, this could be different.

Ofcourse, as the Spider is just a NEC card with a sticker on, I dont see why those driver shouldnt work also the original NEC cards.  Unless there's something naughty going on with the drivers again, so that only cards with certain chip serial IDs will work, and other cards, if detected, might cause something unexpected .   :-D
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Offline kolla

Re: Elbox's Spider II and Amithlon - caveat
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2003, 01:35:48 AM »
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tjaoz wrote:
@kolla

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Ofcourse, as the Spider is just a NEC card with a sticker on
You are wrong.
NEC does not produce USB PCI cards at all. NEC produces USB 2.0 chipsets, which are used by many different USB card manufacturers. Each manufacturer provides their own drivers supporting only their own cards.


Well, that is exactly what I meant with "a NEC card", funny how identical this card is with a certain other card, the NEC reference board for that chipset, a board that NEC indeed produced. I sit here with the Spider card infront of me, and the only "elbox" thing about it are the stickers.

As for drivers - are you suggesting that _only_ Elbox drivers will work with this card? What if someone wrote a EHCI driver with generic NEC support, including the µPD720100 used on the previous Spider cards? Any reason they would not work on Spider :-)
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A3000/060CSPPC+CVPPC/128MB + 256MB BigRAM/Deneb USB
A4000/CS060/Mediator4000Di/Voodoo5/128MB
A1200/Blz1260/IndyAGA/192MB
A1200/Blz1260/64MB
A1200/Blz1230III/32MB
A1200/ACA1221
A600/V600v2/Subway USB
A600/Apollo630/32MB
A600/A6095
CD32/SX32/32MB/Plipbox
CD32/TF328
A500/V500v2
A500/MTec520
CDTV
MiSTer, MiST, FleaFPGAs and original Minimig
Peg1, SAM440 and Mac minis with MorphOS