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The Mac incorporated a lot of really interesting, innovative ideas in its day. Unfortunately, most of the really good stuff either never caught on with anyone else (the Resource Manager and the forked filesystem,) or has since been forgotten (intuitive, heavily standardized UI) - especially now that Mac OS is just BSD with a shiny skin on it.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2014, 02:40:32 PM »
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Actually of the original Mac... Only the GUI was really interesting...

And modern Mac are not just "BSD with a shiny interface", they are in fact NeXTStep machines. Vastly superior to the original Mac.
So superior, in fact, that they've dropped back to a core OS from the '70s.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2014, 03:47:26 PM »
The difference is that toilet paper is a good design.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2014, 09:23:52 PM »
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Computers are ubiquitous.  We  don't even think about them now.
Maybe you don't. I do.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2014, 12:38:23 PM »
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You must be a sick bastard to make fun of a sick man. He was very ill at that time, so of course he could use a handicap parking spot.
He was doing that long before he had any illness. The anecdote with Jean-Louis Gassee in the OP dates from the '80s.

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Hope you get cancer and die and I'll post here and laugh... Get it stup**?
What a charming sentiment.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2014, 05:57:17 PM »
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No one went to the moon in 69 (ever?), I don't have links but google plenty.
Wow. This thread has now utterly jumped the rails and turned into the Crazy Train...
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2014, 08:26:23 PM »
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It's probably all a coincidence but knowing that our politicians and the CIA are capable of assassinations, red flag attacks on our cities (to start a war with Cuba) and spying and framing of even U.S. citizens for false crimes, I haven't ruled it out.
And yet we actually know about that stuff. Because the US government is absolutely terrible at keeping secrets. We've had a conspiracy going all the way up to the presidential level brought down because of a nosey socialite spotting a break-in from her hotel room; we've had another president impeached because he couldn't keep it in his pants and couldn't keep people from gabbing about it; all considerations of scientific plausibility aside, do you seriously think that this government could mount and actually succeed at such a massive, elaborate campaign of deception? By this point we'd have the catering receipts leaked to the press.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2014, 02:45:26 PM »
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Oh if only there'd been someone who could have conceived of hyper-media in a networked computer environment with a point and click interface.  Thank God that Steve Jobs invented it all in 1983.  Prior to that, we didn't even compute, we just beat rocks against each other hoping there was enough iron or tin in them to cause a spark that might leap to another rock, and so-on.  Then the son of heaven descended upon us, having caused computers to literally condense from the very essence of his thoughts and graced us with a user interface literally no-one had ever dreamed of before.
Zing, sir.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2014, 03:53:39 PM »
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I will defend something if people are delutionally being unfair about it. My only irrational hatred is towards Java, I'm quite sure Java is a great language and VM now but I just don't like it :)
Java is a perfectly fine language. Unfortunately, it's a perfectly fine language that's chained to a terribly crappy runtime library and VM... :/
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2014, 06:16:22 PM »
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/06/meet-art-part-1-the-new-super-fast-android-runtime-google-has-been-working-on-in-secret-for-over-2-years-debuts-in-kitkat/
Precisely. In order to make it usable, Google just wound up throwing out everything but the language and building their own alternative from scratch. That tells you a lot about the library and VM, I think.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2014, 12:28:15 PM »
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The alternative on the table at the time as BeOS, but that lacked any real software at the time, had no real world usage and wasn't a mature software platform.
Had BeOS gotten the spot as the official successor to classic Mac OS, that would've changed drastically. The Mac was still far less of a niche market at that time, so there would've been plenty of development for it. Such a pity they didn't go that route...if they had, I'd still be a Mac user myself.
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Re: Steve Jobs parked in Handicapped spaces and kicked old ladies?
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2014, 02:31:22 AM »
What can we say? Meat is delicious!
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